In this issue: Re: _Haunted Lives_: Part Two Chat: Party in the Wild Wood Reading? Book sites! Today in History - March 8 LeFanu Re: LeFanu Re: Alice Liddell Alice (one more time) Re: Reading? Re: LeFanu Re: LeFanu Re: LeFanu Re: Alice (one more time) Re: LeFanu Re: Reading? Today in History - March 9 Re: Reading? <FWD> HELP!!, with comment from listowner Re: Alice (one more time) <FWD> re: HELP!! Re: Re: LeFanu Re: Re: Reading? Glub glub glub (fwd) Re: _Haunted Lives_ Part 2 Re: Reading? "...from things that go bump..." Re: "...from things that go bump..." Re: <FWD> re: HELP!! Re: "...from things that go bump..." Seeking Art Mysteries Re: Seeking Art Mysteries CHAT: RE: Seeking Art Mysteries Re: _Haunted Lives_ Part 2 Re: CHAT: RE: Seeking Art Mysteries -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:30:57 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: _Haunted Lives_: Part Two >>Rachel in THE MOONSTONE -- Eve -- Pandora -- Psyche -- Bathsheba Everdene... Marion in WOMAN IN WHITE--don't go on that roof, Marion! Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:09:47 -0500 From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)mindspring.com> Subject: Chat: Party in the Wild Wood Happy 140th Birthday to Kenneth Grahame, born in Edinburgh, March 8, 1859. Cheers, Badger
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 10:02:22 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Reading? I wasn't sure what we were reading last week except more of the Le Fanu, but I am really not sure what we are reading this week? I may have missed a message with an etext listing. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 12:43:24 -0600 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Book sites! >>> "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)mindspring.com> 03/06/99 07:03AM >>> ABE and Bibliofind have taken great chunks of MY money in the past. ;-) Another couple of resources along these lines are: http://www.acses.com/ Acses searches prices on new books! http://www.blackwells.co.uk/Blackwell's is always worth checking for rare English books. http://www.ebay.com Is sometimes worth doing a search on for a particular title or author, though the auction format drives up the price. Kiwi Carlisle carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu (watching the mail for a few mail ordered rare books herself!) - --------------------- Gaslighters may be interested in these sites: http://www.abe.com http://www.bibliofind.com and the one mentioned by Jack Kolb: http://www.bookfinder.com Call your bank and have them raise the credit limit on your charge cards! Cheers, Jim
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 11:16:45 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - March 8
1853
The first bronze statue of Andrew Jackson is unveiled in
Washington, D.C.
1855
The first train crosses Niagara Falls on a suspension bridge.
1862
On the second day of the Battle of Pea Ridge, Confederate
forces, including some Indian
troops, under General Earl Van Dorn suprise Union troops, but
the Union troops win the
battle.
1862
The Confederate ironclad Merrimack is launched.
1880
President Rutherford B. Hays declares that the United States
will have jurisdiction over any
canal built across the isthmus of Panama.
1904
The Bundestag in Germany lifts the ban on the Jesuit order of
priests.
1908
The House of Commons, London, turns down the women's suffrage
bill. Women's History
1909
Pope Pius X lifts the church ban on interfaith marriages in
Hungary.
1910
Baroness de Laroche becomes the first woman to obtain a pilot's
license in France.
Born on March 8
1783
Hannah Hoes Van Buren, wife of Martin Van Buren
1804
Alvan Clark, telescope manufacturer
1841
Oliver Wendell Holmes, U.S. Supreme Court Justice
1859
Kenneth Grahame, Scottish author who created the children's
classic The Wind in the
Willows.
1879
Otto Hahn, co-discoverer of nuclear fission
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:05:54 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: LeFanu Is the LeFanu novel anywhere on the Net (parts 3 and on?) -- I don't know whether I can wait for my next fix. Carroll
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: LeFanu I haven't been able to find this novel... went to the website. Where is it???? phoebe
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:27:58 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Re: Alice Liddell
>The actual Alice that Dodgson wrote the stories for was Alice Pleasance
>Liddell Hargreaves (her married name).
>Marta
The epilogue to _Through the Looking Glass_ ("All in a Golden Afternoon", I
think it's called; it's been too long since I read the thing) is an acrostic
poem which spells out the name Alice Pleasance Liddell when you read the first
letter of each line down the page.
Jerry
gmc(at)libra.pvh.org
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 08:18:56 -0500 From: Doug Wrigglesworth <dougwrig(at)NETROVER.COM> Subject: Alice (one more time) I would commend to the group "White Stone, the Alice Poems" by Stephanie Bolster, winner of the 1998 Governor General's Award for Poetry. (Signal Editions 998 ISBN 1-55065-099-8) This lovely series of poems explore the life of Alice Liddell in the context of the Alice books and the fame they brought her. A delicious read. Doug Wrigglesworth Friends of the Arthur Conan Doyle Collection at The Toronto Reference Library 16 Sunset Street, Holland Landing, ON L9N 1H4 (905) 836-1858 (Voice) (905) 836-0464 (Fax) dougwrig(at)netrover.com
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:02:04 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: Reading?
Deborah McM. asks what we are reading this week. I'm struggling to edit a short
sci-fi story. I hope to announce it very soon.
I apologize for alternating lately between a proper two-month schedule one time
and no schedule the next. All should settle down again soon.
Stephen
mailto:sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:11:15 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: LeFanu
Carroll,
_Haunted lives_ is not available elsewhere on the 'net. This is one of the
reasons Bob recommended we revive the text for the public at large.
I can always announce when the next section is ready for proofreading if
that helps. Imagine what the original readers must have been feeling when the
story was first serialized.
More amazing to think is that this story was one of three serials that Le
Fanu had on the go at the time. Altho he owned the _Dublin University
magazine_, he seems to have had a burst of energy at this point (c. 1867/68) and
wrote more than he could publish himself. He sold the two other novels to other
publications.
We will remember, tho, that Le Fanu was a great recycler of his own old
plots. I don't know if they ideas were archetypal to him, or if he was
perfecting their telling, or if his imagination was taxed at this point of his
life. We previously read "The familiar" which was a reworking of "The watcher".
(I almost called it a "rehash", but it was nothing so trite.)
_Haunted_, however, seems to be all original in its conception.
Stephen
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:13:23 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: LeFanu
Phoebe, et alia,
the Le Fanu novel _Haunted lives_ is in the process of serialization at
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/lfanumen.htm
The original serial was in six parts, tho I'm basing the etext on a triple
decker book edition.
Stephen
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:17:07 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: LeFanu
Phoebe et alia,
the Le Fanu novel _Haunted lives_ is at the following URL:
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/lfanumen.htm
Robert G. and I have based our etext on the triple decker book edition, but
we are releasing it in the 6-part serial format that Le Fanu first used.
Most stories on the website, even if not properly linked by Diana and
myself, can be found by using the search function at the bottom of the left
frame.
Stephen
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:23:29 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: Alice (one more time)
I was browsing the nearest bookstore on Friday night and found a biography of
Mary Pickford (finally, I now know what happened to brother Jack), and noticed
that many of the photos were credited to the collection of our own Bob Birchard.
One photo was a test of Mary as Alice. I did not have time (nor purchasing
power) to see if this was a silent or sound project, but I understand that it
was abandoned regardless.
Stephen
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:32:37 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: Re: LeFanu >Carroll, > _Haunted lives_ is not available elsewhere on the 'net. This is one >of the >reasons Bob recommended we revive the text for the public at large. > I can always announce when the next section is ready for proofreading if >that helps. Imagine what the original readers must have been feeling when the >story was first serialized. Maybe plots are ghosts. (Hollywood sure seems to think so.) If "ready for proofreading" means ready even if proofreading hasn't yet been done, by all means, roll it. Thanks for the Le Fanu info. His name is eerie -- Le Fanu. Sort of like Morgan La Fay. One of her Irish relatives? I heard he was related to Richard Brinsley Sheridan. Carroll
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 09:58:51 -0800 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Re: Reading? Stephen wrote: <<<Deborah McM. asks what we are reading this week. I'm struggling to edit a short sci-fi story. I hope to announce it very soon. <<I apologize for alternating lately between a proper two- month schedule one time and no schedule the next. All should settle down again soon.>> Why don't we continue discussing Le Fanu's Haunted Lives part II this week, since it looks like several of us overlooked your announcement last week. Somehow, your Le Fanu announcement slipped past me right into the email archive box. <grin> That will give you more time to finish the sci-fi piece you are editing. How about it, all you Le Fanu fans? best regards, Patricia
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:40:35 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - March 9
1812
Swedish Pomerania is seized by Napoleon.
1820
Congress passes the Land Act, paving the way for westward
expansion.
1839
The French Academy of Science announces the Daguerreotype photo
process.
1841
The rebel slaves who seized a Spanish slave ship, the Amistad,
two years ago are freed by
the Supreme Court despite Spanish demands for extradition.
1861
First hostile act of the Civil War occurs when Star of the West
fires on Sumter, South
Carolina.
1862
The first and last battle between the Monitor and the Merrimack
ends in a draw.
1863
General Ulysses Grant is appointed commander-in-chief of the
Union forces.
1911
The funding for five new battleships is added to the British
military defense budget.
1915
The Germans take Grondno on the Eastern Front.
1916
Mexican bandit Pancho Villa leads 1,500 horsemen on a raid of
Columbus, N.M. killing 17
U.S. soldiers and citizens.
Born on March 9
1824
Leland Stanford, railroad builder and founder of Stanford
University
1890
Vyacheslav Molotov, former Soviet Prime Minister and signer of
a non-aggression pact
with Nazi Germany. [And maker of a mean cocktail &8-{) ]
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:23:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Reading?
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Patricia Teter wrote:
> Why don't we continue discussing Le Fanu's Haunted Lives
> part II this week, since it looks like several of us overlooked
> your announcement last week. Somehow, your Le Fanu
> announcement slipped past me right into the email archive
> box. <grin> That will give you more time to finish the sci-fi
> piece you are editing. How about it, all you Le Fanu fans?
>
I'm all for it. It will take some of the pressure off Stephen,
and give some of the folk who haven't read or quite finished
the tale to start a discussion.
So far this has been a most impressive work. It deserves our
attention.
Bob C.
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rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity
Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy; meditate on these things
Philippians 4:8
rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:42:41 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: <FWD> HELP!!, with comment from listowner
Athan can rest easy because I will make sure her acct. stays intact during the
Eastern storm.
Stephen
- ---------------------- Forwarded by Stephen Davies/Academic/MRC on 03/09/99
01:41 PM ---------------------------
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:53:20 -0600
From: athan chilton <ayc(at)uiuc.edu>
Subject: HELP!!
I just got a call from someone at the Mt. Royal listserv but I don't know
how to reach them, so I am sending this to the list (BAD, I know!) in order
that Stephen might see it. I've also sent a copy of this to Carroll Bishop
of this list, in hopes that if my note bounces, that one will get forwarded
to the list by Carroll ! Thanks, Carroll!
We've had a winter storm here & a lot of our servers are either down or not
functioning properly, and so my mail may be bouncing. Please don't delete
me!! Our computing services office hopes everything will get straightened
out before TOO long!
Is this a gaslight story or what?? Soon I'll be hunched over my desk by the
light of one candle, laboriously writing in longhand what I've been dashing
off on the keyboard... sigh... where's E. A. Poe when you need him?
athan
ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:32:00 -0800 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Re: Alice (one more time) Doug Wrigglesworth wrote: <<<I would commend to the group "White Stone, the Alice Poems" by Stephanie Bolster, winner of the 1998 Governor General's Award for Poetry. (Signal Editions 998 ISBN 1-55065- 099-8) This lovely series of poems explore the life of Alice Liddell in the context of the Alice books and the fame they brought her. A delicious read.>>> Doug, from your description, Bolster's volume of poetry sounds wonderful. Thanks for the recommendation. best regards, Patricia Patricia A. Teter PTeter(at)Getty.edu
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:47:58 -0700 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: <FWD> re: HELP!! Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:07:22 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: HELP!! >off on the keyboard... sigh... where's E. A. Poe when you need him? Well, hate to break this to you, Athan...but he's dead. Didn't you get the news? Storms! Hope you get through! Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:34:37 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Re: LeFanu Thanks... people on the list have graciously pointed me the right way. I am devouring it and praying that my novel sells so I can get a faster computer! It's a doozie! phoebe
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 20:37:39 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Reading? In a message dated 3/9/99 5:56:53 PM, Patricia wrote: <<Why don't we continue discussing Le Fanu's Haunted Lives part II this week, since it looks like several of us overlooked your announcement last week. Somehow, your Le Fanu announcement slipped past me right into the email archive box. <grin> That will give you more time to finish the sci-fi piece you are editing. How about it, all you Le Fanu fans?>> Second!!! I won't read anything but the LeFanu anyway... midterms etc etc best phoebe
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:42:44 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: Glub glub glub (fwd) I thought you Gaslighters had to see this gem posted on the James Family mailing list by Casey Abell. I have Casey's permission to share it with you guys. It follows a query concerning Henry James and the drowning of "Fenimore's" dresses. Constance Fenimore Woolson, his friend, committed suicide by defenestration in Venice. Henry was so shaken when he got the full details that he cancelled plans to attend her funeral in Rome. He did however go to Venice a bit later to help a relative of hers pack her books and other effects. Are you ready? I read this to a friend on the phone today, and we both kept weeping with laughter so that some of the lines had to be repeated. Carroll Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:20:59 -0500 Reply-To: JAMESF <JAMESF-L(at)WVNVM.WVNET.EDU> Sender: JAMESF <JAMESF-L(at)WVNVM.WVNET.EDU> From: Casey Abell <CaseyAbell(at)COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Glub glub glub To: JAMESF-L(at)WVNVM.WVNET.EDU Sorry for the irreverent title, but I should have checked Fred Kaplan's one-volume biography. His account of the watery fate which befell Constance's dresses: "He [HJ] took piles of her dresses - she seemed to have an almost limitless number of them, all funereal black - onto a gondola and had them and himself rowed out into the middle of the lagoon. For some bizarre reason, he thought he could best get rid of them by drowning them. 'He threw them in the water and they came up like balloons all around him, and the more he tried to throw them down, they got all this air, the more they came up and he was surrounded by these horrible black balloons.' Again and again, 'he tried to beat these horrible black things down and up they came again and he was surrounded by them.' He seemed engulfed by these dark simulacra, by the nightmarish representation of Fenimore that rose one after another, irrepressibly, making their claim of attachment, as if they belonged to him forever." I know this sounds flippant, but I can't help thinking that HJ might have seen the comic side of this spectacle, had he not been so emotionally involved. The sight of the historian of fine consciences beating down a bunch of inflated black dresses - well, there's an other than tragic view of the event. Maybe the lesson is that, if you're going to "drown" clothes, you should put them in a weighted chest first. Mr. Kaplan lists a letter from HJ to Grace Carter as the primary source for this passage, with an Italian collection of essays on Henry James and Venice as the secondary source. Casey Abell
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:22:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Re: _Haunted Lives_ Part 2
I thoroughly enjoyed the encounter in Chapter XX between Alfred Dacre
and Charles Mannering, filled as it was with so many rivalrous and
witty repostes between the two. I especially like Dacre's response,
"Every man who is treated according to his deserts fancies himself
ill-used because he is not treated according to his egotism." That sounds
so much like a Wilde bon mot that I wonder if the latter did not pick up
the knack for witticisms in the days when as a boy he used to visit the
LeFanus with his mother and play with the LeFanu children. (Somehow I
can't imagine Wilde as a child, but I suppose he was one once.) In any
case, I begin to see that Wilde was more Irish in his wit than I have ever
given him credit for.
I also greatly like the multifacted Laura, who has such spirit and yet
isn't above doubting herself. The scene with her maid was very well done,
as Laura in her self-questioning drives Mersey to tears with her misplaced
doubts about her servant. (It is also interesting to see how, even though
Mersey has known Laura since she was a child, the class divisions are
observed to a nicety, though LeFanu feels that Mersey exhibits an
intimacy that could only be accounted for by long acquaintance.) Then
there is Laura's attitude toward the young Gypsy girl, whom she treats
with some generosity, though she later chides herself for having anything
to do with a member of such a treacherous race--thinks this even as she
realizes that someone in her own house is betraying her. Laura, with her
suspicions of Jews and Gypsies, isn't exactly a politically correct
heroine; but she does have contrary feelings about everything,
and of course her confusion is our confusion. Thus she becomes part of
the mystery as well: is she the down-to-earth person she often seems to
be, the sort who takes no nonsense from the Charles Mannerings and Rev.
Parkers of the world; or is she the Romantic who loves moonlight and
blushes at the slightest hint of a man in whom she is interested? Ah, "her
infinite variety"!
One last comment. LeFanu's style is so leisurely in this work--so
different from the mannered style of _Carmilla_. The style differs too
from that of his short stories, which have far more descriptive passages
and are much somberer in tone. Is there a LeFanu style? Perhaps we can
only speak of LeFanu styles.
Bob C.
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Robert L. Champ
rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity
Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy; meditate on these things
Philippians 4:8
rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:49:38 -0600 (CST)
From: James Rogers <jetan(at)ionet.net>
Subject: Re: Reading?
At 09:58 AM 3/9/99 -0800, Patricia wrote:
>Why don't we continue discussing Le Fanu's Haunted Lives
>part II this week, since it looks like several of us overlooked
>your announcement last week. Somehow, your Le Fanu
>announcement slipped past me right into the email archive
>box. <grin> That will give you more time to finish the sci-fi
>piece you are editing. How about it, all you Le Fanu fans?
>
>best regards,
>Patricia
>
I am only on chapter 2 of the LeFanu, so that works for me.
James
James Michael Rogers
jetan(at)ionet.net
Mundus Vult Decipi
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:19:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: "...from things that go bump..."
The following AP release is a story about seeing/hearing scary tales
as a kid. My scariest early experience with a story had nothing to
do with films or tv, but with a neighboring lady who told my sister
and I the story of "Bluebeard."
Bob C.
Study: Scary Films Stay With You
By A.J. DICKERSON
.c The Associated Press
DETROIT (March 9) -- If ``Jaws'' scared you out of the water or ``Psycho''
changed your shower habits, a study suggests you probably aren't alone.
A survey of 150 students at the Universities of Michigan and Wisconsin
found that one in four had some lingering ``fright'' effect from a movie
or TV show they saw as a child or a teen-ager.
Some people who saw the thriller about a man-eating shark never went into
the ocean again, said Kristen Harrison, a University of Michigan
communications professor who co-wrote the study.
And ``Psycho?''
``There are people who shower with the door open, even though they're
quite sure there isn't a killer in the house,'' Harrison said Tuesday.
Ninety percent said they were scared by a TV or movie from their childhood
or adolescence; 26 percent said they still experience ``residual
anxiety.''
The younger children were when they were frightened, the longer the
reaction lasted.
Ranny Levy, president of the Coalition for Quality Children's Media in
Santa Fe, N.M., said her own 27-year-old son was frightened of taking a
swim in the sea a few years ago and blames it on seeing ``Jaws'' as a boy.
``He had to force himself. He really identified it with watching `Jaws'
when he was little,'' she said.
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Robert L. Champ
rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity
Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy; meditate on these things
Philippians 4:8
rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:52:41 -0600 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: "...from things that go bump..." This is so very, very common that when the Diagnostic Interview Schedule (a test for making psychological diagnoses, invented by my boss) is administered, you have to be very careful when giving the Post-Traumatic Stress section. So many people are so frightened by movies, books, etc. that they try to report it as PTSD! Kiwi Carlisle carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:26:44 -0600 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: Re: <FWD> re: HELP!! >Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:07:22 -0700 >From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> >Subject: HELP!! > >>off on the keyboard... sigh... where's E. A. Poe when you need him? > >Well, hate to break this to you, Athan...but he's dead. Didn't you get the >news? Oh, drat, Deborah! You see, I'm on this other list called Ghostletters, wherein sometimes people write as historical characters--I myself occasionally write as Mark Twain--and so I just got to thinking old Poe might still be around in some form or other (silly grin)! > >Storms! Hope you get through! Seems to be okay now, at least nobody has called me today to tell me my mail is bouncing. Not much snow for all that trouble, either. athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:31:56 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: "...from things that go bump..." >If ``Jaws'' scared you out of the water or ``Psycho'' changed your shower habits, a study suggests you probably aren't alone. Mine was "The Crawling Eye". For some reason my father thought it would be fun to share his favorite kinds of movies with his 7 yr. old and 4 yr. old (me). As long as we lived in Virginia I was sure every winter that thing would be sure to get me (it only liked cold). When we moved to Arizona I felt a huge sigh of relief only to be haunted by the sound of a loose fan belt and then buried memories of "Them!" came back. You can't win. The boogey-man is everywhere! Strangely enough though--these are my favorite kinds of movies, too! Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:46:06 -0800 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Seeking Art Mysteries Dear Gaslighteers, A colleague, interested in Art Mysteries, is compiling a bibliography of mystery titles which focus on the arts, museums, archaeology, books, libraries, etc. A number of years ago, I compiled a partial list of art mysteries, however, I was unable to list many Gaslight era titles. Are any Gaslighteers familiar with Gaslight era mysteries which focus on the arts in some manner? I would greatly appreciate any assistance. best regards, Patricia
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:25:29 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: Seeking Art Mysteries >however, I was unable to list many Gaslight era titles. TENANT OF WILDFELL HALL? It is something of a mystery and it features an artist? Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:01:57 -0800 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: CHAT: RE: Seeking Art Mysteries Deborah McM-N wrote: <<TENANT OF WILDFELL HALL? It is something of a mystery and it features an artist?>> Thanks, Deborah! The Bronte title will fit nicely since I am utilizing a very flexible definition of "mystery." This is a clear case of not seeing the trees for the forest, since I recently reread this book. Patricia
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:28:50 -0800 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Re: _Haunted Lives_ Part 2 Bob C. wrote: << One last comment. LeFanu's style is so leisurely in this work--so different from the mannered style of _Carmilla_. The style differs too from that of his short stories, which have far more descriptive passages and are much somberer in tone. Is there a LeFanu style? Perhaps we can only speak of LeFanu styles.>>> Bob C., I have greatly enjoyed your comments on LeFanu's _Haunted Lives_, and in particular, the comments on LeFanu's style in this piece. (Since I am still reading Part 1, any other comments must wait.) Being a fan of LeFanu, I had certain expectations before reading this story, and while I have certainly enjoyed the story, the style of this piece has been a complete surprise. Had I been given the story with the author's name deleted, I would never have attributed this piece to LeFanu. Do you know of other LeFanu stories in this lighter style? best regards, Patricia
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:29:34 -0500
From: "John D. Squires" <jdsbooks(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: CHAT: RE: Seeking Art Mysteries
Patrocia,
If your definition of "mystery" is flexible enough, you might
consider
"Huguenin's Wife" by M. P. Shiel, "Pall Mall Magazine", April, 1895,
reprinted in _The Pale Ape_(1911), _The Best Short Stories of M.
P. Shiel_(1948), _Xelcuha and Others_(1975), _Writings_, Vol. I of
The Works of M. P. Shiel (1979) & various anthologies. Sam Moskowitz
suggested it might have inspired "Pickman's Model", but I don't recall
if
Lovecraft had discovered Shiel before he wrote it.
Best,
John Squires
Patricia Teter wrote:
> Deborah McM-N wrote:
>
> <<TENANT OF WILDFELL HALL?
> It is something of a mystery and it features an artist?>>
>
> Thanks, Deborah! The Bronte title will fit nicely since I am
> utilizing a very flexible definition of "mystery." This is
> a clear case of not seeing the trees for the forest, since
> I recently reread this book.
>
> Patricia
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