In this issue: Re: Fwd: more on Prestonspeed and Henty Books read in childhood Today in History -- Sept 21 Re: books read in childhood Plato and Socrates for children Re: books read in childhood Edith Nesbit Re: Japanese cultural aspects Re: books read in childhood Re: books read in childhood Re: Japanese cultural aspects RE: Japanese cultural aspects Tribute to Jerome K. Jerome three humor web sites Etext avail: G.A. Henty's _The young colonists_ not available one more children's book post Re: one more children's book post Re: Tribute to Jerome K. Jerome Re: Re: books read in childhood Re: one more children's book post CHAT: Re: books read in childhood Today in History --Sept. 22 Chat: Chess Player by Poe Re: CHAT: Re: books read in childhood Etext avail: Boer Wars stories Kate Chopin Today in History -- Sep 23 Re: Today in History -- Sep 23 More anecdotes on Gaslight website -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:12:20 -0700 From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: Fwd: more on Prestonspeed and Henty >>Michael Farris, president of the Home >>School Legal Defense Association, calls the return to >>> such classics the "No. 1 trend" in home schooling. >>> >>> "The Henty books have helped reflect the thinking of Western >>civilization," he said. "Children are also reading Plato, 'City of >>> God' by St. Augustine, and getting truly a classical education." >>> >I wonder what they can find in Plato that's fit/interesting enough >for children to read? I certainly hope that they don't feature >the Republic verbatim, or parts of the Symposium, which could >be enough to frighten a sensitive, thinking child, especially >a girl-child out of her or his wits. I'm not talking about monsters >here, I'm talking about inequalities and assumptions about >gender/class superiority. > >Kiwi, who has alway been afraid of philosophers. As I remember (and it's been years since I read them), the Henty volumes I read were occasionally rife with racism and inclined towards imperialism. Just the sort of tripe that a conservative like Farris would fawn over. I don't mean to impugn Henty's merits: a real sense of story and a sophisticated vocabularly for a child. But I too would point out that Socrates wanted to severely restrict poets and artists in his republic. And Augustine like many of at least the early Christian "fathers" had a pretty low opinion of women. As Gandhi said, when someone asked him what he thought of Western civilization, "I think it would be a very good thing." Rant mode over. Jack Kolb Dept. of English, UCLA kolb(at)ucla.edu
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:30:46 -0700
From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Books read in childhood
Does anyone else here know the wonderful novel (I still would like to
submit a screenplay of it sometime) by Fritz Muehlenweg, Big Tiger and
Christian? Set in China and Tibet in the 1920s, it's about as unracist as
it could be; and though it deals with the adventures of two boys, it
also--if I remember correctly--has a strong girl as nearly equal heroine.
It was probably the most memorable book I read as a pre-adolescent; I
remember parts of it vividly after 40 years (well, I confess I have reread
it more recently {grin}).
Jack Kolb
Dept. of English, UCLA
kolb(at)ucla.edu
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:18:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Sept 21 A much truncated version of "Today"--my usual source didn't come through. 1792 The French National Convention voted to abolish the monarchy. 1897 The New York Sun ran its famous editorial that answered a question from 8-year-old Virginia O'Hanlon: ``Is there a Santa Claus?''
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:21:15 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: books read in childhood One more note about Frances Hodgson Burnett. It's a good thing she wrote A Little Princess, or all anyone would remember her for is Little Lord Fauntleroy, a truly nauseating work. I think I have more patience with it as an adult than I did as a child, when I thought it was simply disgusting. Kiwi
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:40:42 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Plato and Socrates for children I appreciate that there is good in Plato, but honestly, I still can't stomach him, any more than I like Aeschylus, and I have read plenty of each, from childhood on. Perhaps it's got to do with the fact that even as a little girl, I thought poets and artists SHOULD have important roles in ruling the state, and that, Diotima aside, women in Plato come off very badly. I've always wished that we could have "met" Socrates in his own words, rather than filtered through Plato. If he was really the man Plato says he was, Xanthippe was right! Perhaps, however, it's good for children to meet unpalatable concepts head on, and learn to make up their minds for themselves, as I did. My father had a wonderful answer, when people asked him why he didn't censor my reading (which he was regularly asked when I would be found reading Shakespeare at 7 or Talbot Mundy at 9, etc.). He'd say, "If she doesn't understand something, it can't hurt her. If she DOES understand it, she's old enough to read it.". This rule might not work for every child, but if parents would tell their kids that they can read what they want IF they will come and talk to them about what troubles/puzzles them, I think it would make a difference! Kiwi
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:57:34 -0500 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: Re: books read in childhood >A very strange book -- I don't think people write this kind of book >anymore -- except, Athan, maybe a Japanese fairytale? > Hmmm, it does sound like that--and like a story I'd enjoy reading! Guess I'd better find it. It is a full-length book, correct--not a story in a collection? Your comment likening this story to a Japanese fairytale makes me wonder WHY people don't write such books anymore? Too subtle for our jaded senses? Now we have crass remakes of 'The Haunting' and the like! But the above-mentioned Japanese fairytales/ghost-tales are proof that such stories do work well, not despite, but because of the subtlety involved. In the story that influenced me when I was gathering materials for 'The last ghost' , the reader doesn't know that the beautiful woman is a tree-spirit, or that she will die when her tree is cut down, until the very end. One only sees her family's eagerness to have her wed, and her suitor's eagerness to have her. The woman's ghostliness and/or impending doom are present only in the most subtle, gentle, non-horrific (to us) way. It sounds as if Burnett partook of this attitude, which seems to bespeak a sense of death as a gentle visitor and perhaps even a friend, rather than the vicious, implacable, skeletal spectre of American Halloween repute... Not-very-related questions: What other as-yet-unmentioned books had a profound effect on our readers as children? Did anyone read a book whose title/author they cannot now recall but can still remember scenes from? I did... and have no idea what the book was, other than it involved the adventures of some children who were English or Scots, one of whom was named 'Murtagh' and who owned a big dog of some kind...! I recall this book for a seemingly rather dark atmosphere, but that may have just been my juvenile mindset, seeing as I was fascinated by all things dark and autumnal... athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:05:39 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Edith Nesbit I'm glad to see that others are fond of Nesbit. I've always loved the fact that her children's fantasies are so clearly fantasies from the children's point of view, not just fantasies FOR children. For instance, in Five Children and It, I think, the Psammead conjures up a group of "Red Indians" to attack the house where the children are spending a heretofore dull afternoon. Nesbit cleverly makes the attackers the sort of Indian that children who had read a lot of kiddy pulp fiction would imagine, able to understand "Pussy Ferox" and "Bobs of the Mounted Police" and accept them as great chiefs, even though they are wearing their own scruffy wool blankets and feathers from the maid's duster. They are not cliche'd portrayal, but straight from "let's pretend". Her knights in armor are the same. Often the real people from other civilizations are presented most sympathetically in Nesbit, as in her Babylonians, Egyptians, and early British tribesmen. Her stories of Dickie of Deptford (the "Arden" stories) also present universal themes, such as the search for a true home, the meaning of courage, etc. as well as introducing historical figures in a sympathetic manner, much as Kipling did. And, of course, it's interesting for an adult reader to trace the Fabian influences in her work, most noticable in her complaints about the treatment of children and the poor and in her occasional futuristic utopias. We need to find more Nesbit that's eligible for us to read! Kiwi
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:37:05 -0600 (MDT) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Japanese cultural aspects On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, athan chilton wrote, apropos a book another reader had mentioned: > Your comment likening this story to a Japanese fairytale makes me wonder > WHY people don't write such books anymore? Too subtle for our jaded > senses? Now we have crass remakes of 'The Haunting' and the like! But the > above-mentioned Japanese fairytales/ghost-tales are proof that such stories > do work well, not despite, but because of the subtlety involved. In the > story that influenced me when I was gathering materials for 'The last > ghost' , the reader doesn't know that the beautiful woman is a tree-spirit, > or that she will die when her tree is cut down, until the very end. One > only sees her family's eagerness to have her wed, and her suitor's > eagerness to have her. The woman's ghostliness and/or impending doom are > present only in the most subtle, gentle, non-horrific (to us) way. It > sounds as if Burnett partook of this attitude, which seems to bespeak a > sense of death as a gentle visitor and perhaps even a friend, rather than > the vicious, implacable, skeletal spectre of American Halloween repute... Admittedly this is a major digression from "Books read in childhood", but I find it interesting that a culture which has for centuries possessed and encouraged a highly militaristic society, with a cult of "Bushido" - "the way of the warrior" - and had a warrior class, the samurai, who I understand possessed the power of life and death over the peasants, should at the same time have this "sense of death as a gentle visitor..." To me it has always sounded as though Death, in Japanese culture, was indeed the "vicious, implacable spectre". It may be that my views were shaped by reading "The Forty-Seven Ronins", and subsequently viewing "Rashomon", "Ran" (and "Black Rain"!), but to me there is a great dissimilarity between these two views of death, and thus of life. Comments would be appreciated. Peter Wood
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:45:24 -0600 (MDT) From: John Woolley <jwoolley(at)dna420.mcit.com> Subject: Re: books read in childhood Athan asks: > What other as-yet-unmentioned books had a > profound effect on our readers as children? Absolutely the Top Book for me, from about age 9, was George MacDonald's _The Princess and the Goblin_. Mysterious and beautiful, full of powerful images -- the old queen, her fire, her bath, her bed, her birds, the mine, the house, the thread - -- that children's imaginations need to live on, with layers upon layers of meaning that nourished my heart while they took years to work their way into my intellect. A great book. A bit later, _The Hobbit_ and _The Lord of the Rings_. - -- Fr. John
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:17:54 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: Re: books read in childhood >Hmmm, it does sound like that--and like a story I'd enjoy reading! Guess >I'd better find it. It is a full-length book, correct--not a story in a >collection? Tell you what, Athan: send me your real life address and I'll send you my copy of IN THE CLOSED ROOM. I'll read it first -- maybe sending it to you will de-scarify it for me. I see it isn't the copy my Grandmother gave me, so I must have got rid of that one and replaced it with a secondhand one. Re Japanese attitudes to death -- what about all that seppuku stuff? Carroll
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:41:39 -0500 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: Re: Japanese cultural aspects but to me >there is a great dissimilarity between these two views of death, and thus >of life. I couldn't agree more--and have always found this dichotomy to be one of the more fascinating aspects of Japanese culture; revering nature and natural beauty, yet promulgating ideals of isolationism and, as you say, militarism--this was, even in the era of the samurai, was no simple society with easily-defined beliefs. However, the 'tree maiden' tale I mentioned as a literary influence was, I believe, Chinese rather than Japanese--which might make a difference. (Hearn translated and rewrote many stories and legends both Japanese and Chinese.) P.S. Peter, have you ever seen the film version of '47 Ronin'? It's called 'Chushingura' and is well worth watching if you ever get the chance. athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:50:58 -0400 From: "Roberts, Leonard" <lroberts(at)email.uncc.edu> Subject: RE: Japanese cultural aspects I don't think there were two views of Death in Japanese culture. In the code of Bushido, Death was seen as 'lighter than a feather'. The 47 Ronin, for instance, knew when they conceived their plan of revenge that, success or failure, they would die. The militaristic society, Bushido, etc., were a result of the Japanese view of duty and social obligation, in my opinion. Len Roberts > Admittedly this is a major digression from "Books read in childhood", but > I find it interesting that a culture which has for centuries possessed and > encouraged a highly militaristic society, with a cult of "Bushido" - "the > way of the warrior" - and had a warrior class, the samurai, who I > understand possessed the power of life and death over the peasants, should > at the same time have this "sense of death as a gentle visitor..." To me > it has always sounded as though Death, in Japanese culture, was indeed the > "vicious, implacable spectre". > It may be that my views were shaped by reading "The Forty-Seven Ronins", > and subsequently viewing "Rashomon", "Ran" (and "Black Rain"!), but to me > there is a great dissimilarity between these two views of death, and thus > of life. > Comments would be appreciated. > Peter Wood >
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:21:15 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Tribute to Jerome K. Jerome Have I already raved about the amusing time travel novel, Not to Mention the Dog, by Connie Willis? It includes a lot of literature and events from our period, and the title itself is the subtitle of Jerome K. Jerome's Three Men in A Boat. Most refreshing! Kiwi
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:17:49 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: three humor web sites
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I was just notified of three new humour websites. I'll pass on the message
because they sound promising.
I've not had a chance to view them. It would be nice if anyone else who goes
there could evaluate them for the rest of us on Gaslight.
Stephen D
mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
(who's own personal favourite humour site is
"Art Frahms: the effect of celery on loose elastic"
http://www.lileks.com/institute/frahm/index.html
at the Institute of Official Cheer. )
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Don Nilsen <don.nilsen(at)asu.edu> on 09/21/99 10:45:15 AM
To: Don Nilsen <don.nilsen(at)asu.edu>
cc: (bcc: Stephen Davies/Academic/MRC)
Subject: three humor web sites
If you are interested in HUMOR IN IRISH LITERATURE, please click
here:
http://info.greenwood.com/books/0313295/0313295514.html
If you are interested in HUMOR IN EIGHTEENTH-AND-NINETEENTH-CENTURY
BIRITSH LITERATURE, please click here:
http://info.greenwood.com/cgi-bin/getisbn.pl?isbn=0-313-29705-3
If you are interested in HUMOR IN BRITISH LITERATURE, FROM THE
MIDDLE AGES TO THE RESTORATION (INCLUDING THE RENAISSANCE), please click
here:
http://info.greenwood.com/cgi-bin/getisbn.pl?isbn=0-313-29706-1
Thanks for clicking.
Don.nilsen(at)asu.edu <mailto:Don.nilsen(at)asu.edu>
Don L. F. Nilsen
Executive Secretary
International Society for Humor Studies
http://www.uni-duesseldorf.de/WWW/MathNat/Ruch/SecretaryPage.html
English Department
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-0302
TEL: 480-965-7592; FAX: 480-965-3451
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:01:00 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Etext avail: G.A. Henty's _The young colonists_
From: Stephen Davies(at)MRC on 09/21/99 03:01 PM
To: Gaslight-announce(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
cc:
Subject: Etext avail: G.A. Henty's _The young colonists_
(HENTYMEN.HTM#young) (Fiction, Chronos, Scheds)
G.A. Henty's _The young colonists: a tale of the Zulu and Boer Wars _ (1???)
ygclnx01.nvl
ygclnx02.nvl
ygclnx03.nvl
ygclnx04.nvl
ygclnx05.nvl
Henty's novel begins appearing on Gaslight. Two chapters midway thru
the novel will be identified as our reading assignment in the near
future. The chapters can stand alone, separate from the rest of the
novel.
Other Henty stories already available on Gaslight are "Bears and Dacoites"
and "The pipe of mystery".
To retrieve all the plain ASCII files send to: ftpmail(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
with no subject heading and completely in lowercase:
open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca
cd /gaslight
get ygclnx01.nvl
get ygclnx02.nvl
get ygclnx03.nvl
get ygclnx04.nvl
get ygclnx05.nvl
get beardact.sht
get pipemyst.sht
or visit the Gaslight website at:
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/hentymen.htm#young
Stephen D
mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:50:03 -0400
From: Linda Anderson <lpa1(at)ptdprolog.net>
Subject: not available
In case you were wondering, the "Young Colonists" is not one of the novels
availabe from Preston Speed company.
Linda Anderson
who ordered all those available yesterday
Etext avail: G.A. Henty's _The young colonists_
(HENTYMEN.HTM#young) (Fiction, Chronos, Scheds)
G.A. Henty's _The young colonists: a tale of the Zulu and Boer Wars _ (1???)
ygclnx01.nvl
ygclnx02.nvl
ygclnx03.nvl
ygclnx04.nvl
ygclnx05.nvl
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elizabeth VanBuskirk <evanbuskirk(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: one more children's book post
Well, I just have to throw in my 2c. After reading
your posts and enjoying having my memeory jogged about
many of my favorites ("Boxcar Children" being read
aloud in 3rd grade or thereabouts--wonderful!), I have
to add that one of my earliest memories is that of
lying on the bed with my father reading "Alice in
Wonderland" out loud to me. He would call my mother in
to read her parts he found so funny and would laugh
and laugh. I read that one over and over.
Also, did anyone read "Beautiful Joe"? Heartrending,
and I'm not sure I could read it as an adult without
crying. Same goes for "Bambi."
Too tempting to go on and on.
Eliz.
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:34:10 -0700
From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: one more children's book post
I read "Beautiful Joe" many times and cried over it, but I enjoyed it in
my youth; you're right, I couldn't read it today without crying my eyes
out even more. I still cry to this day when I think about the ending to
"Charlotte's Web", wonderful as that book was. I remember crying my
eyes out after finishing the book, while stumbling down the stairs at
Monmouth Park school when I was in the 3rd grade.
Marta
Elizabeth VanBuskirk wrote:
>
> Well, I just have to throw in my 2c. After reading
> your posts and enjoying having my memeory jogged about
> many of my favorites ("Boxcar Children" being read
> aloud in 3rd grade or thereabouts--wonderful!), I have
> to add that one of my earliest memories is that of
> lying on the bed with my father reading "Alice in
> Wonderland" out loud to me. He would call my mother in
> to read her parts he found so funny and would laugh
> and laugh. I read that one over and over.
>
> Also, did anyone read "Beautiful Joe"? Heartrending,
> and I'm not sure I could read it as an adult without
> crying. Same goes for "Bambi."
>
> Too tempting to go on and on.
>
> Eliz.
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute to Jerome K. Jerome In a message dated 9/21/99 6:21:55 PM, you wrote: <<Have I already raved about the amusing time travel novel, Not to Mention the Dog, by Connie Willis? >> Oh, a great read! I loved it. Won a lot of awards, too. Actually, it's To Say Nothing of the Dog. phoebe
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:24:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Re: books read in childhood In a message dated 9/21/99 3:02:40 PM, you wrote: <<What other as-yet-unmentioned books had a profound effect on our readers as children?>> I had (actually, still have) a steel box full of small booklets -- mostly non-fiction: The Story of Steam; The Story of Coal; The Story of Railroads; Tales of American Indians; Fairytales from Around the World... etc etc... I read and re-read those. The folk tale East o' the Sun and West o' the Moon made me so angry as a child I nearly tore the book up. Think it made a feminist of me. Anyone on the list know this one? I love the Box of Knowledge, though. That's why I still have it in my bookshelf. phoebe
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:39:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: one more children's book post In a message dated 9/22/99 12:13:01 AM, Eliz wrote: <<Also, did anyone read "Beautiful Joe"? Heartrending, and I'm not sure I could read it as an adult without crying. >> Still requires at least a box of tissues. phoebe
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:25:19 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: CHAT: Re: books read in childhood Zozie says: . The folk tale East o' the >Sun and West o' the Moon made me so angry as a child I nearly tore the book >up. Think it made a feminist of me. Anyone on the list know this one? Hey Phoebe! It was my favorite fairy tale as a child, and it still is. Most of the women I know think it's one of very few fairy tales with a strong woman protagonist. It's in Angela Carter's (ed.) VIRAGO BOOK OF FAIRY TALES. Her note says "This is one of the most lyrically beautiful and mysterious of all Northern European fairy tales, and one that has proved irresistible to 'literary' writer for 2,000 years." It is of course a version of the Amor and Psyche myth told by Apuleius, and also the French literary fairytale Beauty and the Beast. What I love is the lassie's gutsy, and on the whole unflappable, pursuit to claim and rescue her bewitched lover. Of course she has some magic helpers, but then it's a fairy tale. I think it's close to being my credo. I love the tone of the narrative -- the voice is ancient with many tellings, and with laughter and wisdom. You never worry about this lassie. When is the last time you read it? What made you angry? Carroll
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 03:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History --Sept. 22 Once again, dear hearts, a shortened version of Today in History... On September 22, 1862, President Lincoln issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, declaring all slaves in rebel states should be free as of Jan. 1, 1863.
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:03:40 -0400 From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)iname.com> Subject: Chat: Chess Player by Poe Greetings, Does anyone know where I can find an etext of Poe's "The Chess Player"? Not on Gutenberg. Please reply to mailto:jkearman(at)iname.com Thanks. Jim Kearman
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:24:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: CHAT: Re: books read in childhood In a message dated 9/22/99 3:29:18 AM, you wrote: <<When is the last time you read it? What made you angry?>> Well, all those experts like it and I still don't. Last time I read it? Probably last year. Sorry -- I just disagree. See, there IS this gutsy heroine... she sacrifices herself for her family and goes off with a fearsome bear. She finds herself in a beautiful palace with everything that she could want, except she is isolated and no one will answer any of her questions, so she is totally in the dark about what's happening around her. She, gutsy girl she is, cleverly plays a trick and finds out -- and then everything is wrong, and she has done a Bad Thing to want to know the truth. Then she goes off on perilous adventures riding winds etc to find the bewitched Prince and try to make things right -- for which she is never applauded, by the way -- and winds up in a community of Ugly Women. She wins, of course, rescuing the Prince from the spell and beating out the Ugly Women for the prince's hand. How? Not because she is courageous, clever, persevering -- but because she is the best at washing his dirty shirt. Huh? Struck me as wildly unfair as a child and still does. hmmmm, phoebe
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:24:43 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Etext avail: Boer Wars stories
From: Stephen Davies(at)MRC on 09/22/99 03:24 PM
To: Gaslight-announce(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
cc:
Subject: Etext avail: Boer Wars stories
(KNEESGOD.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos, Scheds)
E.W. Hornung's "The knees of the gods" (year?)
(HENTYMEN.HTM#young) (Fiction, Chronos, Scheds)
G.A. Henty's _The young colonist_ (1885)
(SWARTZ.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos, Scheds)
E.W. Thomson's "The Swartz diamond" (year?)
kneesgod.sht
E.W. Hornung's famous amateur cracksman, Raffles, appears
in "The knees of the gods". Discussion begins on 99-sep-27.
ygclnx06.nvl
through to
ygclnx20.nvl
Henty's _The young colonists_ completed. Chapters 13 to 15 will be the
topic for discussion starting 99-oct-04
swartz.sht
E.W. Thomson's tale of Canadians in the second Boer War, will
be discussed starting 99-oct-11.
To retrieve all the plain ASCII files send to: ftpmail(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
with no subject heading and completely in lowercase:
open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca
cd /gaslight
get kneesgod.sht
get ygclnx06.nvl
get ygclnx07.nvl
get ygclnx08.nvl
get ygclnx09.nvl
get ygclnx10.nvl
get ygclnx11.nvl
get ygclnx12.nvl
get ygclnx13.nvl
get ygclnx14.nvl
get ygclnx15.nvl
get ygclnx16.nvl
get ygclnx17.nvl
get ygclnx18.nvl
get ygclnx19.nvl
get ygclnx20.nvl
get swartz.sht
or visit the Gaslight website at:
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/kneesgod.htm
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/hentymen.htm#young
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/swartz.htm
Stephen D
mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:43:14 -0700 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Kate Chopin I don't remember if this link was sent to the list when we were discussing Kate Chopin, but I ran across it today and thought I'd post it. The page is called "The Awakening and Selected Short Stories by Kate Chopin". http://ofcn.org/cyber.serv/resource/bookshelf/awakn10/ Marta
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:44:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Today in History -- Sep 23
Interesting things that happened September 23rd:
Birthdays on this date:
In 1800 William H. McGuffey, educator (McGuffey Readers)
In 1838 Victoria Chaflin Woodhull, American feminist, reformer
In 1852 William Stewart Halsted, established first surgical school in US
In 1880 John Boyd Orr, nutritionist, UN's FAO (Nobel 1949)
In 1889 Walter Lippmann, journalist, political writer
In 1898 Walter Pidgeon, actor (Mrs. Miniver, Madame Curie)
In 1900 Louise Nevelson, sculptor
In 1910 Elliot Roosevelt, son of FDR
In 1920 Mickey Rooney, actor (too many credits to mention)
Events worth noting:
In 1846 Johann Galle and Heinrich d'Arrest find Neptune.
In 1862 Lincoln's Emancipation Proclaimation published in Northern
Newspapers.
In 1863 Confederate siege of Chattanooga, Tenn., begins.
In 1877 Urbain J.J. Leverrier, codiscoverer of Neptune, dies.
In 1890 Ed Cartwright bats in 7 RBIs in 1 inning.
In 1912 First Mack Sennett "Keystone Comedy" movie is released.
In 1926 Gene Tunney defeats Jack Dempsey for world heavyweight boxing title.
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:04:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History -- Sep 23 In a message dated 9/23/99 4:49:23 AM, Bob wrote: << In 1838 Victoria Chaflin Woodhull, American feminist, reformer>> She was also the first female candidate for the US presidency. phoebe
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:59:37 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: More anecdotes on Gaslight website
I've mounted on the Gaslight website the whole chapters from which I've been
quoting the anecdotes from _Modern eloquence_ (1900). There are also some
partial chapters. If interest is sufficient, I will continue to fill in the
gaps. See the following URL:
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/anecmenu.htm
Stephen D
mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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