In this issue: Re: Lewis of Lewis & Clark dies <WAS: Today in History -- Oct 12> Today in History -- Oct 14 Re: Today in History -- Oct 14 Today in History -- Oct 15 Re: Today in History -- Oct 15 Re: Today in History -- Oct 15 Today in History -- Oct 16 Tudor Hall sold (fwd) Today in History -- Oct 17 Today in History -- Oct 18 Ghost story Re: Ghost story Feather pillow story Surprise Endings Re: Ghost story Re: Ghost story Re: Ghost story Sixth Sense Favorite Ghost story Re: Favorite Ghost story Re: Favorite Ghost story Re: Favorite Ghost story Today in History -- Oct 19 Re: Favorite Ghost story Re: Re: Favorite Ghost story Re: Ghost story Re: Ghost story Re: Favorite Ghost story Re: Ghost story Re: Ghost story Re: Favorite Ghost story Re: Ghost story Today in History -- Oct 20 Re: Ghost story RE: Ghost story -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:32:16 -0700 From: Robert Birchard <bbirchard(at)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Lewis of Lewis & Clark dies <WAS: Today in History -- Oct 12> The Strange Death of Merriweather Lewis, I think. Interesting book. Chris Carlisle wrote: > There's a lot of speculation that Mr. Lewis killed himself. I think > there was a popular book or novel about this a year or so ago. > I think there's a murder mystery too, but can't recall for the life > of me what the title is. > > Kiwi - -- Bob Birchard bbirchard(at)earthlink.net http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/Guest/birchard.htm
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:44:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 14 Interesting things that happened October 14th: Birthdays on this date: In 1857 Elwood Haynes, auto pioneer, built one of the first US autos In 1874 Raymond Ewry of U.S., won 10 Olympic gold medals for jumping In 1890 Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President (R) (1953-1961) In 1894 e e cummings, poet In 1896 Lillian Gish, silent film and stage actress (Birth of a Nation) Events worth noting: In 1843 British arrest Irish nationalist Daniel O'Connell for conspiracy. In 1884 George Eastman patents paper-strip photographic film. In 1905 Giant's Christy Mathewson's third straight world series shutout. In 1912 Theodore Roosevelt is shot in the chest in Milwaukee while campaigning for President with the Bull Moose Party. In 1922 First automated telephones-Pennsylvania exchange in New York City.
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:25:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History -- Oct 14 Also born this day, in 1863, William Randolph Hearst's intrepid journalist Winifred Black who wrote under the name Annie Laurie... A fearless reporter, she was known for her inventive ways of getting stories. She once dressed as a beggar and pretended to faint in the middle of a street in order to be taken to a sub-standard hospital. Her stories about being thrown into a prison cart and trundled off to the hospital led to reforms and the beginning of ambulances. She covered WWI, most of the major trials of her day, and was the first woman to cover a prizefight. [Don't know which one, sorry.] Whatta woman! smiling, phoebe
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 01:37:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 15 Interesting things that happened October 15th: Birthdays on this date: In 1785 Jos? Miguel Carrera, president of Chile (1811-14) In 1829 Asaph Hall, astronomer, discovered the moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos In 1844 Friedrich Nietzsche, philosopher, ?bermensch In 1858 John L. Sullivan, famed pugelist, (heavyweight champ 1882-92) In 1900 Mervyn Le Roy, movie producer In 1905 C. P. Snow, British novelist and scientist In 1908 John Kenneth Galbraith, economist In 1917 Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., historian In 1921 Mario Puzo, author (Godfather) Events worth noting: In 1860 Grace Bedell writes to Lincoln, tells him to grow a beard. In 1863 Cliff House opens in San Francisco (first of many on the site). In 1885 Hoss Radbourne pitches his 60th win of the season. In 1914 ASCAP founded (American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers). In 1917 Mata Hari executed by firing squad outside of Paris. So Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. was born on the very same day that Mata Hari was executed. An interesting, even if meaningless, connection. I wonder if anyone has a list of the names of famous people who were born and died on the same day.
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:03:06 -0400 (EDT) From: TFox434690(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History -- Oct 15 Bob Thanks for noting the first Cliff House. One of my favorite places on earth. Tom Fox
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:04:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History -- Oct 15 My calendar lists as a significant fact that on this day in 1839 Queen Victoria proposed to Albert and he accepted. Does seem to be an event worth noting. best phoebe
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:18:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 16 Interesting things that happened October 16th: Birthdays on this date: In 1792 Francisco Moraz?n (Liberal), president of Central America (1830-40) In 1854 Oscar (Fingal O'Flahertie Wills) Wilde (Dublin, Ireland), author (Picure of Dorian Gray), wit In 1863 Sir Austen Chamberlain, British foreign secretary (Nobel 1925) In 1888 Eugene O'Neill, playwright (Desire Under the Elms) (Nobel 1936) In 1890 Paul Strand, photographer In 1898 William O. Douglas, former Supreme Court justice In 1908 Enver Hoxha, post-war leader of Albania In 1921 Linda Darnell Events worth noting: In 1846 Dentist William T. Morton demonstrated the effectiveness of ether. In 1849 British seize Tigre Island in Gulf of Fonseca from Honduras. In 1859 Abolitionist John Brown leads group of 20 in a raid on the US armory at Harper's Ferry, Va. In 1861 Confederacy starts selling postage stamps. In 1916 Margaret Sanger opens the first public birth control clinic (Brooklyn, NY). In 1921 Jim Conzelman takes over as coach of Rock Island Independents from Frank Coughlin -- only mid-game coaching change in NFL history. In 1923 Disney Co. founded.
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:39:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Tudor Hall sold (fwd) The following AP story is of particular interest to me, both because of its historical nature and because I was a long-time resident of Harford County (a graduate of Bel Air High School), where the Booth residence is located. Bob Champ (for those wondering where I have been. I'm teaching an online literature course this semester and most of my computer time goes into writing posts about literature there. This is also a course I haven't taught before, so I need to do a good deal of preparation. I do hope to get back into the swing of things on Gaslight.) John Wilkes Booth Birthplace Sold Birthplace of Lincoln Assassin Sells For $415,000 By TEDDIE WEYR .c The Associated Press BALTIMORE (Oct. 16) - The childhood home of John Wilkes Booth, the assassin who shot President Lincoln, was sold at auction Saturday to a local couple who plan to make it their residence. Robert and Elizabeth Baker made the winning $415,000 bid for Tudor Hall in the Baltimore suburb of Bel Air. Besides being the home of one of the most notorious figures in U.S. history, Tudor Hall also is regarded as the birthplace of Shakespearean theater in America. It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. A local school, Harford Community College, sought to preserve the house as a museum and center for theater lovers, but the bidding quickly surpassed the school's limit. ''We're disappointed that the Shakespearean history programs cannot be built at the home site,'' college President Claudia Chiesi said after the auction. A nonprofit group called the Preservation Association for Tudor Hall Inc. has among its members actors Hal Holbrook and Stacy Keach, who both had pledged to restore the property if the college bought it. ''I'm disappointed, naturally,'' Keach said Saturday from Los Angeles. ''Hopefully, this wonderful couple will have an interest in preserving the legacy of the Booth family.'' The Gothic-style house was built in 1847 by Junius Brutus Booth, a famous Shakespearean actor who moved to Maryland from his native England and bought 100 acres in Harford County, about 40 miles north of Baltimore. Edwin and John Wilkes Booth accompanied their father on his theater trips across the country. Edwin Booth was considered one of this country's greatest Shakespearean actors. After John Wilkes Booth, also a well-known actor, assassinated Abraham Lincoln in 1865, Junius Booth lost the property. Ownership changed hands over the years. In 1968, the house was bought by Howard and Dorothy Fox, who lived in the home, hosted small theatrical productions and converted it to a museum. When the Foxes died within weeks of each other earlier this year, each without a will, their heirs decided to sell Tudor Hall. The Bakers said they want to make the house their home and are open to allowing some limited tours. ''I think anybody who wants to live in a historic home feels there's an obligation there to keep everything intact as well as you possibly can,'' said Mrs. Baker. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:51:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 17 Interesting things that happened October 17th: Birthdays on this date: In 1835 Alexandrine-Pieternella-Fran?oise Tinn?, explored the White Nile In 1893 Spring Byington, actress "December Bride" (early sitcom.) In 1903 Irene Ryan (in El Paso, Texas), actress (Beverly Hillbillies) In 1908 Jean Arthur, actress In 1915 Arthur Miller, playwright (Death of a Salesman, The Crucible) In 1919 Rita Hayworth (in New York), actress, In 1921 Tom Poston, comedian, actor (Newhart) Events worth noting: In 1850 Knickerbocker Engine Co. Number 5 organized. In 1887 Gustav Kirchoff, discoverer of the laws of spectroscopy, dies. In 1894 Ohio national guard kills 3 lynchers while rescuing a black man. In 1899 Sutro railroad sold to Robert F. Morrow for $215,000. In 1904 Bank of Italy (Bank of America) opens its doors. In 1919 RCA created.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:40:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 18 Interesting things that happened October 18th: Birthdays on this date: In 1859 Henri Bergson, French philosopher (Creative Evolution) (Nobel 1927) In 1878 James Truslow Adams, historian In 1919 Pierre Elliot Trudeau (L), 15th Canadian PM (1968-79, 1980-84) In 1921 Jesse Helms, right-wing Senator from North Carolina (R), art critic In 1922 Richard Stankiewicz, U.S. sculptor Events worth noting: In 1847 English astronomer J.K Hind discovers Flor, his second asteroid. In 1862 Morgan's raiders capture the federal garrison at Lexington, KY. In 1867 U.S. took formal possession of Alaska from Russia ($7.2 million). In 1873 The Ivy League (Columbia, Princeton, Rutgers, and Yale) set rules for collegiate football. In 1892 First commercial long-distance phone line opens (Chicago - New York). In 1898 American flag raised in Puerto Rico. In 1922 British Broadcasting Corporation established. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:50:12 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)alice.gloaming.com> Subject: Ghost story While making beds today one of our feather pillows seemed unusually heavy and (for some reason we needn't go in to) I was reminded of a ghost story about something lurking inside someone's pillow, they got weaker and weaker and it was found later the pillow was filled with blood (and something else?). I thought it was an M.R. James story but it's not--anyone remember this? Deborah PS: Who hopes we will be reading a single ghost story for the week of Hallowe'en. The serials are fun but I'm having trouble reading them and look forward to single stories now that I'm beginning to catch up. Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:16:27 -0700 From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: Ghost story >PS: Who hopes we will be reading a single ghost story for the week >of Hallowe'en. The serials are fun but I'm having trouble reading >them and look forward to single stories now that I'm beginning to >catch up. > >Deborah McMillion >deborah(at)gloaming.com >http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html Encouraged by Deborah's suggestion, could I ask everyone to rack their brains (a wonderfully grotesque thought {grin}) and come up with their favorite ghost or supernatural story (novels not allowed) for the entertainment of us at the end of this month. As usual, I'd prefer something not terribly gory. I'd also be interested in everyone's favorite ghost/supernatural movie (and here I'll demand that they not be bloodfests or scareflicks). Tentatively, to start things off, I'd nominate Henry James "The Jolly Corner" in the first category, and either "The Haunting" (original version!) or Carl Dreyer's "Vampyr" in the second. But since I'm the first, I reserve my right to change my nominees. Happy haunting, Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:41:11 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Feather pillow story Deborah, the story you are thinking of is likely one by a Latin American author, Horacio Quiroga, called "The feather pillow" (1907). It was collected in Richard Dalby's _Dracula's brood_ (1991) and suffers somewhat because of the company it keeps in that volume. As a story, its surprise ending is easily guessed because the reader is anticipating a connection with a vampire act. Perhaps it still has some strength by virtue of its being grim, but the story would be more effective if the reader is unaware of the kind of outcome the story brings. I've never been bothered by this story since we don't get very many exotic threats up here. Even killer bees seem to halt at the 49th parallel. Stephen
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:54:49 -0700 From: "Jesse F. Knight" <jknight(at)internetcds.com> Subject: Surprise Endings > Perhaps it still has some strength by virtue of its being grim, but the story > would be more effective if the reader is unaware of the kind of outcome the > story brings. That's always an issue with anthologies and magazines. I write stories with surprise endings for an on-line troup called "Twist". And it is very difficult to write a surprise ending when every reader is expecting it. Same thing with ghost story magazines. I review many ghost story collections and I have written many ghost stories. It is very difficult to bring off a suprise in that environment. Everyone is expecting a ghost. One of the remarkable things about _The Sixth Sense_ is that it is a ghost story, and yet I was still shocked by the ending. Jesse F. Knight
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:56:51 -0700 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Ghost story I'd nominate "Smee" by A. M. Burrage. I've got that in a text version, if anyone's interested. It's just about my favorite short ghost story. Marta Jack Kolb wrote: > > >PS: Who hopes we will be reading a single ghost story for the week > >of Hallowe'en. The serials are fun but I'm having trouble reading > >them and look forward to single stories now that I'm beginning to > >catch up. > > > >Deborah McMillion > >deborah(at)gloaming.com > >http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html > > Encouraged by Deborah's suggestion, could I ask everyone to rack their > brains (a wonderfully grotesque thought {grin}) and come up with their > favorite ghost or supernatural story (novels not allowed) for the > entertainment of us at the end of this month. As usual, I'd prefer > something not terribly gory. I'd also be interested in everyone's > favorite ghost/supernatural movie (and here I'll demand that they not be > bloodfests or scareflicks). > > Tentatively, to start things off, I'd nominate Henry James "The Jolly > Corner" in the first category, and either "The Haunting" (original > version!) or Carl Dreyer's "Vampyr" in the second. But since I'm the > first, I reserve my right to change my nominees. > > Happy haunting, Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:00:17 -0400 From: Linda Anderson <lpa1(at)ptdprolog.net> Subject: Re: Ghost story was it one of the cats? the snow falling in your area? come on! tell us why!!!! Linda At 02:50 PM 10/18/1999 -0700, you wrote: >While making beds today one of our feather pillows seemed unusually >heavy and (for some reason we needn't go in to) I was reminded of a >ghost story about something lurking inside someone's pillow, they got >weaker and weaker and it was found later the pillow was filled with >blood (and something else?). > >I thought it was an M.R. James story but it's not--anyone remember this? > >Deborah > >PS: Who hopes we will be reading a single ghost story for the week >of Hallowe'en. The serials are fun but I'm having trouble reading >them and look forward to single stories now that I'm beginning to >catch up. > >Deborah McMillion >deborah(at)gloaming.com >http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html >
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:55:23 -0700 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Ghost story Isn't that in F. Marion Crawford's "For the Blood is the Life"? It's been awhile since I read it, but it sounds familiar. Marta Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > While making beds today one of our feather pillows seemed unusually > heavy and (for some reason we needn't go in to) I was reminded of a > ghost story about something lurking inside someone's pillow, they got > weaker and weaker and it was found later the pillow was filled with > blood (and something else?). > > I thought it was an M.R. James story but it's not--anyone remember this? > > Deborah > > PS: Who hopes we will be reading a single ghost story for the week > of Hallowe'en. The serials are fun but I'm having trouble reading > them and look forward to single stories now that I'm beginning to > catch up. > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:15:17 -0600 (MDT) From: John Woolley <jwoolley(at)dna420.mcit.com> Subject: Sixth Sense Thanks to everyone who recommended "The Sixth Sense". What a terrific movie! I'm going to see it again. - -- Fr. John
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:03:20 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)alice.gloaming.com> Subject: Favorite Ghost story >favorite ghost or supernatural story Difficult to narrow down, Jack. A story that stands up to the test of having to reread periodically I would have to say "Casting the Runes" by M.R. James. (Though I have to sneak in for second "Smee" by Benson, a real ghost story.) >"The Haunting" (original version!) Naturally, I'd pick this. But another movie that truly scared me when I first saw it as a kid was "Carnival of Souls". A definite "B" grade movie (with a surprise ending, too, along the lines of 6th Sense). The scene at that abandoned pavilion on the side of a receding lake is fabulous. I found out years later the director saw that pavilion and wanted to create a movie around it. Deborah (thanks for help on the story, too--nice to see the burst of energy on Gaslight) Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:05:49 -0400 From: Kay Douglas <gwshark(at)erols.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Ghost story >favorite ghost or supernatural story Well, not a story, but recently I reread The Haunting of Hill House (to get in the October mood), and was amazed at how after having read the book and seen the '63 movie several times, it *still* got to me. I guess a measure of its effectiveness is that I invariably have trouble sleeping with my hand drooped over the side of the bed after reading it..... "Then WHOSE hand was I holding....?" Eeek! But a sentimental favorite (and a story this time) is E.F. Benson's "Pirates," a benign ghost story. Actually, I have favorites in just about every subgenre; for example, my favorite "premonition/warning" story is Edith Wharton's "Afterward." As for movies, it's been a long time since I've seen it, but "Don't Look Now" made an impression on me. Kay Douglas
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:47:09 -0700 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Ghost story I can't sleep with my hand over the edge of the bed, either, because every time I do I remember "Whose hand was I holding?" You're right - Eeeek! Marta Kay Douglas wrote: > > >favorite ghost or supernatural story > > Well, not a story, but recently I reread The Haunting of Hill House (to get > in the October mood), and was amazed at how after having read the book and > seen the '63 movie several times, it *still* got to me. I guess a measure > of its effectiveness is that I invariably have trouble sleeping with my hand > drooped over the side of the bed after reading it..... "Then WHOSE hand was > I holding....?" Eeek! > > But a sentimental favorite (and a story this time) is E.F. Benson's > "Pirates," a benign ghost story. Actually, I have favorites in just about > every subgenre; for example, my favorite "premonition/warning" story is > Edith Wharton's "Afterward." > > As for movies, it's been a long time since I've seen it, but "Don't Look > Now" made an impression on me. > > Kay Douglas
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:48:14 -0700 From: "Jesse F. Knight" <jknight(at)internetcds.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Ghost story My favorite isn't scary, but I have always found it to be poignant, touching, and haunting--"Afterward" by Edith Wharton, whose literary stock I hope keeps rising. She deserves it.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:12:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 19 Interesting things that happened October 19th: Birthdays on this date: In 1862 Auguste Lumi?re, made first movie (Workers Leaving Lumi?re Factory) In 1882 Vincas Kreve-Mickievicius, Lithuanian poet, philologist, playwright In 1895 Louis Mumford, cultural historian, city planner In 1899 Miguel Asturias, Guatemalan poet, novelist, diplomat (Nobel 1967) In 1909 Robert Beatty, actor In 1910 Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, Indian physicist (Nobel 1983) In 1920 LaWanda Page (in Cleveland, OH), actress (Sanford and Son) In 1922 Jack Anderson, columnist Events worth noting: In 1812 Napoleon begins his retreat from Moscow. In 1845 Wagner's opera 'Tannhauser' is performed for first time. In 1853 First flour mill in Hawaii begins operations. In 1859 Wilhelm Tempel discovers diffuse nebula around Pleid star Merope. In 1864 Approx. 25 Confederates make surprise attack on St. Albans, Vermont. + Battle of Cedar Creek, Virginia. In 1872 World's largest gold nugget (215 kg) found in New South Wales. In 1879 Thomas A. Edison successfully demonstrates the electric light.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:37:23 -0700 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Ghost story Has anyone seen the atmospheric "Shades of Darkness" series, an entry in PBS' Mystery!, that ran in the extremely early 80's? They produced 8 episodes, all done in England by Granada, 2 of which were "Afterward" and "The Ladies' Maids' Bell", both Wharton stories. They also did "The Maze", C. H. B. Kitchin's short ghost story, starring Francesca Annis, and another called "The Intercessor", who's author I forget. These stories were done magnificently; the others were good, too, but these 4 were unsurpassed. I still watch them and they still scare me, especially "The Ladies' Maids' Bell". Supposedy, according to a book on the Mystery! series that I perused once, the "Shades of Darkness" program was only shown that once and never re-run. It's a shame, too, since they produced real shivers in me, not an easy thing to do anymore. Another plus to these shows was Vincent Price's hosting; he got the chance to be spooky and charming at the same time. - -- Marta "The Cemeteries of Omaha" http://members.xoom.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.xoom.com/newtwilzone
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Favorite Ghost story In a message dated 10/19/99 11:46:53 AM, Marta wrote: <<Another plus to these shows was Vincent Price's hosting; he got the chance to be spooky and charming at the same time>> Wasn't he always that? Sigh. He is missed. Did people note that A&E is doing Vanity Fair? A new "lavish" production, or so that toot in the intros. best phoebe
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:05:29 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: Ghost story I must admit to a fondness for Whistle and I'll Come To You, My Lad, by Oliver Onions. Or anything else by that hard-to-find author! Kiwi
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:04:58 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)alice.gloaming.com> Subject: Re: Ghost story > Whistle and I'll Come To You,My Lad, by Oliver Onions. Wasn't that M.R. James or did Onions do one, too? James' was the one with the found whistle and the crumpled sheet...thing. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:08:01 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)alice.gloaming.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Ghost story >Has anyone seen the atmospheric "Shades of Darkness" series Do you have a copy of this?--you must have been smart to tape it if you're still watching them. I remember them very well Especially the two Wharton stories. Wasn't there one about a cursed house that every time someone moved in someone would have to come out 'feet first' (or dead)? I don't remember "The Maze" or "The Intercessor". >Another plus to these shows was Vincent Price's hosting; He also never gave away endings or foreshadowed so much you figured things out. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:25:53 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: Ghost story Sorry, had it mixed up with The Beckoning Fair One. >>> Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)alice.gloaming.com> 10/19/99 11:04AM >>> > Whistle and I'll Come To You,My Lad, by Oliver Onions. Wasn't that M.R. James or did Onions do one, too? James' was the one with the found whistle and the crumpled sheet...thing. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Re: Ghost story "Oh, Whistle and I'll Come to You, My Lad" is indeed by James. I would like to second Kiwi's kind words about Onions, though. My favorite story by him, and one of my favorite ghost stories of all times, is "The Beckoning Fair One," about a writer who finds his life taken over by an evil female ghost. It is beautifully written, highly atmospheric (as all Onions's stories are), and psychologically subtle. Bob Champ On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > Whistle and I'll Come To You,My Lad, by Oliver Onions. > > Wasn't that M.R. James or did Onions do one, too? James' was the one > with the found whistle and the crumpled sheet...thing. > > Deborah > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html > > _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:43:43 -0700 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Ghost story Yes, I managed to get 5 episodes of the 8 taped. I do still watch them quite often. "The Intercessor" is based on a story by May Sinclair, and is about a man who rents a room from a Yorkshire farming couple who might have come staight out of Wuthering Heights, and finds out a lot more about their marital infidelities and what happened to their dead 5 year old daughter than he wants to know, and it almost drives him insane. It has several of the most atmospheric and chilling ghostly sequences I've seen, when the child ghost tries to communicate with the unfortunate lodger. Scares the stuffing out of me every time I see that child ghost. "The Maze" is basically a ghostly love story set in 1951 London, so well done that I just savor the experience as it moves slowly and resolutely towards the ending. Francesca Annis carries the entire production as a wife and mother who has a deep secret she's been hiding from her husband, and in flashbacks we get to see the secret and it's terrible consequences. I've been looking for the short story it's based on, by british detective novelist C. H. B. Kitchin, but haven't found it yet. If anyone out there has it, I'd really like to read it. Marta Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > >Has anyone seen the atmospheric "Shades of Darkness" series > > Do you have a copy of this?--you must have been smart to tape it if > you're still watching them. I remember them very well Especially > the two Wharton stories. Wasn't there one about a cursed house that > every time someone moved in someone would have to come out 'feet > first' (or dead)? > > I don't remember "The Maze" or "The Intercessor". > > >Another plus to these shows was Vincent Price's hosting; > > He also never gave away endings or foreshadowed so much you figured things out. > > Deborah > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html - -- Marta "The Cemeteries of Omaha" http://members.xoom.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.xoom.com/newtwilzone
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:41:59 -0800 From: Robert Raven <rraven(at)alaska.net> Subject: Re: Ghost story Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > > Whistle and I'll Come To You,My Lad, by Oliver Onions. > > Wasn't that M.R. James or did Onions do one, too? James' was the one > with the found whistle and the crumpled sheet...thing. > > Deborah > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html Yeah, it was James. Onions' (oh, by the way, he liked to pronounce it Oh-NYE-ons, for perhaps obvious reasons) most famous is "The Beckoning Fair One," and it's worth a nomination here, too. Bob Raven
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 02:44:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Today in History -- Oct 20 Interesting things that happened October 20th: Birthdays on this date: In 1812 Austin Flint, 19th century pioneer in US heart research In 1819 Mirza Ali Mohammad (The Bab), forerunner of Baha'Ullah In 1823 Thomas Hughes, British author (Tom Brown's School Days) In 1854 Arthur Rimbaud, French poet, adventurer (Illuminations) In 1859 John Dewey, philosopher In 1874 Charles Ives, composer In 1900 Wayne Morse, Oregon Senator (R/D) In 1908 Arlene Francis (in Boston, Mass), actress In 1911 Will Rogers, Jr., actor, comedian Events worth noting: In 1803 Senate ratifies Louisiana Purchase. In 1813 Kingdom of Westphalia abolished. In 1817 The first "Showboat" leaves Nashville, Tennessee to give shows along the Mississippi. It is a converted keelboat. In 1818 U.S. and Britain agree to joint control of Oregon country. In 1820 Spain sells (east) Florida to US for $5 million. In 1903 U.S. wins disputed boundary between the District of Alaska and Canada. In 1906 Dr. Lee DeForest gives a demonstration of his radio tube.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:49:05 -0400 (EDT) From: CLemas1161(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Ghost story Just going over this list this morning I've now come up with a list of at least 5 stories I want to read this October - I'm ashamed to say that I've never read Edith Wharton, so she is now definitely on my list! Thanks for all the great suggestions, I'll now be quite busy. for movies, my favorite ghost story is "The Innocents" with Deborah Kerr - the best remake, I think, of James' "Turn of the Screw". She's wonderful in in! Carol
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:23:36 -0500 From: majkia <majkia(at)home.com> Subject: RE: Ghost story Ok, I confess. For movies, my favourite is The Ghost and Mrs Muir. Altho I have to confess as a kid I loved 13 Ghosts. Majkia, the light-weight ------------------------------ End of Gaslight Digest V1 #103 ******************************