In this issue: for those violin ghost afficianados Re: Imagination vs. reality Ghost Stories Re: for those violin ghost afficianados Re: for those violin ghost afficianados violin ghost afficianados (Robert Johnson) Re: for those violin ghost afficianados Creepy fairy tales, PreRaphaelite Helpful "Titanic" (fwd) Re: for those violin ghost afficianados Re: for those violin ghost afficianados Re: for those violin ghost afficianados Re: Ghost Stories for those ghost afficianados Re: violin ghost afficianados (Robert Johnson) Author information: THROUGH THE IVORY GATE News for Jane Austen fans Today in History - May 24 [MISTI/FTM attachment transfer error] Re: "Northanger Abbey" filming Re: Re: "Northanger Abbey" filming Re: Today in History - May 24 RE: "Northanger Abbey" filming Re: Re: "Northanger Abbey" filming Re: Elephant Man program Today in History - May 25 Article on the Boer War -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:13:15 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: for those violin ghost afficianados From Moonlit Road website, a great source of Southern folktales and ghost stories: >Our new story is "The Ghost of Fiddler's Rock," the true >(?) story of a famous ghost fiddler in the Tennessee >mountains. You can find it now at: > >http://www.themoonlitroad.com/featurestories001.html Notice they said true (?). Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:23:43 -0500 From: Brian McMillan <brianbks(at)netins.net> Subject: Re: Imagination vs. reality As our idea of what "reality" really is keeps changing with the advancement of science, there seems to be a flaw in this statement. To say that humanity knows everything about, for example, the potentiality of extraterrestrial life, their technology, or even whether they've visited the Earth in the form of UFO's during the entirety of recorded history when we've just begun exploring the cosmos ourselves appears to me to be rather ill-advised. This isn't the place to go into a discussion on these lines, but it would be interesting sometime to consider in what ways Gaslight era sightings of UFO's (yes, it's not just a modern phenomena) may have effected Gaslight literature. Brian McM. - -----Original Message----- From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU> To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA <gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA> Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Elephant Man program >No. The SKEPTIC list. For those here who might be able to tell the >difference between imagination and reality. > >Jack Kolb >Dept. of English, UCLA >kolb(at)ucla.edu >> >>>For those who might not, try the SKEPTIC list (subscription information >>>available upon request). >> >>Would that there was the SKEPTIC channel, eh, Jack? >> >>Deborah >> >>Deborah McMillion >>deborah(at)gloaming.com >>http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:47:02 -0700 From: "Jesse F. Knight" <jknight(at)internetcds.com> Subject: Ghost Stories > I love ghost stories. I don't believe them for a moment. Interesting you should mention that, Jack. I write a lot of ghost stories, many of which are set around the turn of the century. Most readers seem disappointed when I tell them that I don't believe ghosts at all, but that I think ghosts are a wonderful metaphor. I mean, look at what that most realistic writer you can think of--Ibsen--did with the idea of _Ghosts_. In a literary sense, one of the things I think make ghosts so intriguing is precisely because they can be used in so many different ways. Jesse F. Knight
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Re: for those violin ghost afficianados There are many wonderful stories from the South related to musical instruments--fiddles and guitars especially. In fact a group of tales arose about the source of the remarkable skills musicians sometimes displayed--almost always associated with the devil. According to these stories, various conjuring spells, usually said at the traditional crossroads or nearby stream, were used to summon the dark one, who, if so inclined, would give the aspirant all the talent needed to make his way in the world. Many musicians no doubt embellished on this basic idea and applied it to themselves, since stories of conjuring were held in high repute, particularly among the South's slaves and ex-slaves. I am also reminded of a less supernaturally tinged work--Stephen Vincent Benet's poem "The Mountain Whipoorwill," which tells in rousing style the story of a fiddle contest in Georgia. (The Chicago folksinger Thom Bishop set this poem to music and taped it, though I am unable to find a copy anywhere.) I would say, re: Deborah's post, that while I don't believe in ghosts myself, I do believe that people who report these events have experienced something out of the ordinary--that is, not entirely confined to their own imaginations. Bob C. On Sat, 22 May 1999, Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > >From Moonlit Road website, a great source of Southern folktales and ghost > stories: > > >Our new story is "The Ghost of Fiddler's Rock," the true > >(?) story of a famous ghost fiddler in the Tennessee > >mountains. You can find it now at: > > > >http://www.themoonlitroad.com/featurestories001.html > > > Notice they said true (?). > > Deborah > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html > _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:13:45 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: for those violin ghost afficianados >I would say, re: Deborah's post, that while I don't believe in ghosts >myself, I do believe that people who report these events have experienced >something out of the ordinary-- But Bob, I do believe in ghosts. I'll be the first to admit it. I've seen what I can only describe as a ghost. I can't explain it in any other way though I have spent years trying. This is a personal event and I'm not interested in recounting it or trying to refute it. I've done all that work myself. All I can say is, despite all logic to the contrary, all science at your back, all the skeptical training in the world does not prepare you for 'something out of the ordinary'. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:08:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Donna Goldthwaite <dgold(at)javanet.com> Subject: violin ghost afficianados (Robert Johnson) Hi, Bob C. writes: >There are many wonderful stories from the South related to musical >instruments--fiddles and guitars especially. In fact a group of >tales arose about the source of the remarkable skills musicians sometimes >displayed--almost always associated with the devil. According to >these stories, various conjuring spells, usually said at the traditional >crossroads or nearby stream, were used to summon the dark one, who, if so >inclined, would give the aspirant all the talent needed to make his way in >the world. Many musicians no doubt embellished on this basic idea >and applied it to themselves, since stories of conjuring were held in high >repute, particularly among the South's slaves and ex-slaves. I'm afraid that the first name that came to mind after reading this was that of Robert Johnson, the blues musician who appeared out of the Mississippi Delta, recorded several outstanding tracks, and disappeared again, to be murdered at the age of 27. He was popularly supposed to have 'sold his soul to the devil' to explain his extraordinary talent. A film, _Crossroads_, directed by Walter Hill was made some years ago, starring a (stunningly miscast, IMO) Ralph Macchio, of Karate Kid fame, based on the legend. Has anyone seen a film called _Can't You Hear the Wind Howl?_ , which is about Johnson? It's a documentary, with Danny Glover narrating. I found a site: http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/39092_43_645416 which includes links to a biography, appreciation, books, films, and music clips for Johnson. Enjoy. (I'll be busy picking up the film.) Donna Goldthwaite dgold(at)javanet.com
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:22:30 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: Re: for those violin ghost afficianados >There are many wonderful stories from the South related to musical >instruments--fiddles and guitars especially. In fact a group of >tales arose about the source of the remarkable skills musicians sometimes >displayed--almost always associated with the devil. According to >these stories, various conjuring spells, usually said at the traditional >crossroads or nearby stream, were used to summon the dark one, who, if so >inclined, would give the aspirant all the talent needed to make his way in >the world. Many musicians no doubt embellished on this basic idea >and applied it to themselves, since stories of conjuring were held in high >repute, particularly among the South's slaves and ex-slaves. > >I am also reminded of a less supernaturally tinged work--Stephen Vincent >Benet's poem "The Mountain Whipoorwill," which tells in rousing style >the story of a fiddle contest in Georgia. (The Chicago folksinger Thom >Bishop set this poem to music and taped it, though I am unable to find a >copy anywhere.) > >I would say, re: Deborah's post, that while I don't believe in ghosts >myself, I do believe that people who report these events have experienced >something out of the ordinary--that is, not entirely confined to their own >imaginations. > >Bob C. Y'all don't believe that all those violins and Aeolian harps and things HAVE SOULS? And if they do, HOW DID THEY GET IN THERE? Any musicians in this group -- what is your personal experience on this interesting subject? These days the devil seems to be mostly in the amplification. Carroll
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:37:46 +0300 From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop) Subject: Creepy fairy tales, PreRaphaelite I don't know why, but this haunted violin thing reminds me of a book of fairytales we had in the house when I was a child in Chicago. I read them many and many a time. Kind of creepy they were too. I think this collection was called: ON A PINCUSHION AND OTHER STORIES, and the authors were, as I remember, William and Mary deMorgan, of William Morris connexion. (I've never spelled connexion with an x before, and probably never will again.) Does anyone else know this book? The story of Vain Lamorna, for instance? I think the stories were Mary's and the woodcut illustration William's, but that may be wrong. Vain Lamorna lost her reflection (sorry, reflexion) from gazing at it too often and ignoring those who truly loved her. I think she gets it back at the end, though it doesn't look quite the same. This was all before Dr. Freud, Dr. Jung, Hollywood, and plastic surgery. Carroll
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:53:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Helpful "Titanic" (fwd) Here is an amusing, though serious, AP story about a recent sinking that owes something to the Titanic story. 'Titanic' Credited in Ship Rescue SINGAPORE (AP) -- The Swedish captain of a cruise ship that burned and sank off Malaysia said the movie ``Titanic'' motivated his crew in training and that the evacuation of 1,093 people went like clockwork. ``I don't know what the captain of the Titanic was thinking, but as far as I was concerned, everyone had to be saved, Captain Sven Hartzell told The Straits Times newspaper in an interview published today. All passengers and crew members aboard Hartzell's ship, the eight-deck Sun Vista, were rescued in lifeboats after it sank off the coast of Malaysia early Friday. Bob C. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:33:51 -0700 From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: for those violin ghost afficianados >>I would say, re: Deborah's post, that while I don't believe in ghosts >>myself, I do believe that people who report these events have experienced >>something out of the ordinary-- > >But Bob, I do believe in ghosts. I'll be the first to admit it. I've seen >what I can only describe as a ghost. I can't explain it in any other way >though I have spent years trying. This is a personal event and I'm not >interested in recounting it or trying to refute it. I've done all that >work myself. All I can say is, despite all logic to the contrary, all >science at your back, all the skeptical training in the world does not >prepare you for 'something out of the ordinary'. > >Deborah Since this seems more directed at me than Bob, insofar as I've declared myself a skeptic, let me just say that a skeptic is not necessarily an unbeliever (I'm pretty close to the latter, but I feel more comfortable with the former). A skeptic only asks for reasonable proof of phenomena, and remains skeptical of what cannot or will not be subject to such proof. This is the last that I'll write about this, since I have no desire in any way to sound a sour note in this wonderful harmonious list, or to bother two email friends whom I admire immensely, Deborah and Bob. Jack Kolb Dept. of English, UCLA kolb(at)ucla.edu
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:31:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Re: for those violin ghost afficianados Well, Deborah, I said that I don't believe in ghosts. That doesn't mean there aren't any. I imagine that, like most members of the human race, I believe that some things are true that are not and that some things are lies that are not. The idea is to keep an open mind going both ways. That I don't believe in the existence of ghosts isn't a matter of dogma to me, just the best estimate I can come to based on the arguments on both sides that I have read over the years. (I've never seen a ghost myself.) Bob C. On Sun, 23 May 1999, Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > >I would say, re: Deborah's post, that while I don't believe in ghosts > >myself, I do believe that people who report these events have experienced > >something out of the ordinary-- > > But Bob, I do believe in ghosts. I'll be the first to admit it. I've seen > what I can only describe as a ghost. I can't explain it in any other way > though I have spent years trying. This is a personal event and I'm not > interested in recounting it or trying to refute it. I've done all that > work myself. All I can say is, despite all logic to the contrary, all > science at your back, all the skeptical training in the world does not > prepare you for 'something out of the ordinary'. > > Deborah > > > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html > _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:44:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Re: for those violin ghost afficianados This thread called to mind--as, unaccountably, it did not at first--the reputation for music wizardry of the fourth kind (direct contact with the devil) long held by Niccolo Pagannini, a musician of our era. Here, shamelessly excerpted from a website, are some of the tales and legends about the great violinist: << People began to speculate about Paganini's great talent, and began to wonder about his gift. Paganini became known as a "Hexensohn" or witch's brat (de Saussine, Paganini 113). Paganini's demonic reputation became so widespread that his talent was often attributed to the belief that he had help from the devil. Paganini began touring Europe when he was in his early forties. At the time, no one had ever seen or heard anyone, or anything, quite like Paganini. For a time, Paganini capitalized on this difference by encouraging the rumors of his supernatural abilities. It was common for him to arrive at a concert in a black coach drawn by black horses. Paganini himself would wear black. Schwarz states that Paganini would enter the stage late, like a non-terrestrial creature, and bow to the audience(Great Masters of the Violin 181). Paganini's technique was outstanding and unusual, but it was his satanic bearing which caused great crowds to attend his concerts. Schwarz states that "It was more than technical wizardry that attracted the masses: there was a demonic quality as well as an enticing poetry in his playing" (Great Masters of the Violin 181). One instance of superb technique being mistaken for supernatural guidance was the "duel" between Lafont, a famous French violinist of the time, and Paganini. Lafont had volunteered to give a joint concert with Paganini; however, people gained the impression that the concert would be a contest. Paganini was the unofficial "winner" of the contest. Schwarz states that Paganini "won" by improvising during the concert by adding octaves, thirds, and sixths (Great Masters of the Violin 172-173). Paganini was always eager to showcase his technique. Sachs states that Paganini, at a concert in Paris in 1832, played his Sonata a movement perpetual at an amazing twelve notes per second (Virtuoso 33). Most people find it difficult to imagine twelve notes in one second. Paganini managed to play twelve notes in the same amount of time it takes for most musicians to read twelve notes. Paganini's talent extended from the mere mechanics of technique to innovations in technique. Paganini is the father of modern violin technique. One innovation Paganini began is the practice of memorization. Violinists before Paganini always used music during a concert. Paganini, on the other hand, would boldly walk onto the stage, shake back his long black hair, place his violin under his chin, and begin to play without the aid of music. Audiences were astounded. They marveled at the thought of one man memorizing an entire program of music. The current practice of memorization was attributed to Paganini's supernatural abilities. Paganini's appearance completed the image of the satanic violinist. Paganini's dark hair and pale face contrasted, giving him an ethereal aura. The loss of his teeth in 1828 gave his face a sunk-in appearance, which added to his ghost-like image. Few concert goers were left unmoved by a performance given by Paganini. Boerne, a German poet at the time, described his impression of a concert given by Paganini: "It was a heavenly and diabolical enthusiasm, I have never seen or heard its like in my life" (Schwarz 185). Paganini's ability to entrance an audience can be attributed to his physical appearance and to his technique. The myth surrounding Paganini lingered even after his death on May 27, 1840. Since Paganini had refused the final sacrament, he could not be buried. His remains were kept in a basement for five years until his family petitioned to have them buried. Many people speculated on his refusal of the sacrament. Some said he did not believe that he would die, while others said he was a non-believer (Sachs 32). The result of his refusal of the final sacrament once again raised the question of Paganini's origin. Paganini's origin was not in Hell as the myth propagates. Paganini's accomplishments were due to his diligence and hard work. Few realize the amount of practice required to perform effortlessly. << Bob C. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. 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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:05:54 -0700 From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: Ghost Stories > I love ghost stories. I don't believe them for a moment. > > Interesting you should mention that, Jack. I write a lot of ghost >stories, many of which are set around the turn of the century. Most >readers seem disappointed when I tell them that I don't believe ghosts at >all, but that I think ghosts are a wonderful metaphor. I mean, look at what >that most realistic writer you can think of--Ibsen--did with the idea of >_Ghosts_. In a literary sense, one of the things I think make ghosts so >intriguing is precisely because they can be used in so many different ways. > >Jesse F. Knight This is exactly my position, Jesse: so lovely to have your confirmation. I'm willing to entertain all of my literary colleagues' views of James' "Turn of the Screw," or, even better, "The Jolly Corner." I'm sure they may reveal all sorts of psychological, social, cultural, etc. insights. But what I value about them most of all is the aesthetic achievement: they are among the best "ghost" stories I know. I'd much like to see/read some of yours; forgive me if I don't know them--my perspective is rather narrow, and I haven't done much searching recently. Cheers, Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:08:48 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: for those ghost afficianados >This is the last that I'll write about this, since I have no desire And I didn't at all want to start an conflict, thanks, Jack. I just felt since everyone was saying "no I don't believe" or what all I'd throw one out there for the yea's. And believe me, it's a very reluctant 'yea'. But last time here, too, besides, y'all are supposed to be reading the next story! ;) (IVRYGATE.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos) Mary Raymond Shipman Andrews' "Through the Iron Gate" (1905) I will post what information I have on this fairly unknown author tomorrow. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:07:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Priya Subramaniam <liminalspace(at)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: violin ghost afficianados (Robert Johnson) I was also reminded of the film "Angel Heart" and also the more recent movie called "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" where the imported supernatural beliefs such as voodoo etc become a part of the ver social fabric. the nature of our shared realities and what we take for granted makes a long email though and unfortunatelyt I have to get off the net.but it is a fascinating topic. Priya >From: Donna Goldthwaite <dgold(at)javanet.com> >Reply-To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA >To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA >Subject: violin ghost afficianados (Robert Johnson) >Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:08:56 -0400 (EDT) > >Hi, > > Bob C. writes: > >There are many wonderful stories from the South related to musical > >instruments--fiddles and guitars especially. In fact a group of > >tales arose about the source of the remarkable skills musicians sometimes > >displayed--almost always associated with the devil. According to > >these stories, various conjuring spells, usually said at the traditional > >crossroads or nearby stream, were used to summon the dark one, who, if so > >inclined, would give the aspirant all the talent needed to make his way >in > >the world. Many musicians no doubt embellished on this basic idea > >and applied it to themselves, since stories of conjuring were held in >high > >repute, particularly among the South's slaves and ex-slaves. > > > I'm afraid that the first name that came to mind after reading this >was that of Robert Johnson, the blues musician who appeared out of the >Mississippi Delta, recorded several outstanding tracks, and disappeared >again, to be murdered at the age of 27. He was popularly supposed to have >'sold his soul to the devil' to explain his extraordinary talent. > > A film, _Crossroads_, directed by Walter Hill was made some years >ago, starring a (stunningly miscast, IMO) Ralph Macchio, of Karate Kid >fame, based on the legend. Has anyone seen a film called _Can't You Hear >the Wind Howl?_ , which is about Johnson? It's a documentary, with Danny >Glover narrating. > > I found a site: > >http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/39092_43_645416 > > which includes links to a biography, appreciation, books, films, >and music clips for Johnson. Enjoy. (I'll be busy picking up the film.) > > >Donna Goldthwaite >dgold(at)javanet.com > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:37:31 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Author information: THROUGH THE IVORY GATE Born on April 2, 1860, in Alabama, Mary Raymond Shipman Andrews studied law under her husband, William Andrews, later Justice of the New York Court of Appeals. Her first literary success was the independently reprinted short story "The Perfect Tribute" (1906), in which President Lincoln hears a wounded Confederate prisoner's opinion of the Gettysburg Address; it sold more than 600,000 copies. Her works include humorous fiction about men (The Eternal Masculine, 1913) and a biography of Florence Nightingale (The Lost Commander,1929). She died in 1936. "Through the Ivory Gate" was first published in the June 1905 issue of Scribner.'s. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: News for Jane Austen fans From _Variety_ comes word that _Northanger Abbey_ is about to be filmed. Bob C. Miramax Goes To Austen's 'Abbey' LONDON (Variety) - Another Jane Austen novel is being dusted off for the big screen. This time Miramax Films is co-producing ``Northanger Abbey,'' a $6 million feature adaptation of Austen's debut novel. Shooting begins this fall in the southwest England city of Bath. Casting remains to be decided, but the lead character, teen-aged Catherine Morland, may be played by a newcomer. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:53:21 -0600 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - May 24 1822 At Battle of Pichincha, Simone Bolivar secures independence of Quito. 1844 Samuel Morse taps out the first telegraph message. 1846 General Zachary Taylor captures Monterey in Mexican War. 1861 General Benjamin Butler declares slaves to be the contraband of war. 1863 Bushwackers led by Captain William Marchbanks attack a Federal militia party in Nevada, Missouri. 1878 The first American bicycle race is held in Boston Born on May 24 1819 Queen Victoria, who restored dignity to the British crown and had nine children. [I had a suspicion this was why all of my calendars say "Victoria Day (Canada)".] 1895 Samuel I. Newhouse, American publisher.
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:45:13 -0600 (MDT) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: Re: "Northanger Abbey" filming Bob Champ wrote: "...the lead character, teen-aged Catherine Morland, may be played by a newcomer." Personally, I should like to see Alyson Hannigan ("Willow" in the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" tv series) in the role. Any other suggestions? Peter Wood
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:10:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Re: "Northanger Abbey" filming In a message dated 5/24/99 8:50:07 PM, Peter wrote: <<Personally, I should like to see Alyson Hannigan ("Willow" in the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" tv series) in the role. Any other suggestions?>> What a neat idea. She's a consistent and consistently fun-to-watch actress. I always love it when a movie is announced saying some "newcomer" is going to play a role. Probably means she/he is already signed. It's not the rain that makes me a tad cynical. We need the rain. best phoebe
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:26:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History - May 24 born also... in 1870, Ynes Enriquetta Julietta Mexia. A very interesting woman who started her career as a botanist after 50, and did most of her work in mexico and South America. She discovered more than 200 new spp of plants. One of them, the Mimosa mexiae, is named after her. Plus -- Helen Taussig, an early female physician who discovered the cause of "blue babies." Born in 1808, she was a true pioneer. best phoebe
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:26:21 -0400 From: "Roberts, Leonard" <lroberts(at)email.uncc.edu> Subject: RE: "Northanger Abbey" filming I must say I agree with Peter. I would love to see Alyson Hannigan in such a role, she would be excellent. Her talent is under-utilized on Buffy (last night's episode being an exception). Len Roberts > Bob Champ wrote: > "...the lead character, teen-aged Catherine Morland, may be played by a > newcomer." > Personally, I should like to see Alyson Hannigan ("Willow" in the "Buffy > the Vampire Slayer" tv series) in the role. Any other suggestions? > Peter Wood
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:11:41 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: Re: "Northanger Abbey" filming Hmmmm... to really be true to the spirit of the novel, Catherine should be played by a young woman of only middling looks. There's really only so much that can be done with makeup. I'd like to see them cast someone really ordinary looking, with good acting skill. The "ordinary" part lets out pretty much everyone from TV! Kiwi
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:39:03 -0400 From: Connie Hirsch <Connie_Hirsch(at)HMCO.COM> Subject: Re: Elephant Man program Actually, at least one of the Crop Circle shows the Discovery Channel ran you would quite approve of, I think -- it concentrated on the phenomenon-as-hoax most amusingly, interviewed various hoaxers and pointed out the proximity of most crop circles to England's art schools. :-) Some of the circles really are quite lovely. The really interesting phenomenon in most "supernatural" occurences is how people react to it. - -connie. connie_hirsch(at)hmco.com
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:04:39 -0600 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - May 25 1810 Argentina declares independence from Napoleonic Spain. 1851 Jose Justo de Urquiza of Argentina leads a rebellion against his former ally, the absolute ruler Juan Manuel de Rosas. 1863 Federal authorities in Tennessee turn over former Ohio congressman Clement L. Vallandigham to the Confederates. President Abraham Lincoln had changed his sentence to banishment from the United States after his conviction of expressing alleged pro-Confederate sentiments. 1911 President of Mexico, Porfolio Diaz, resigns his office. 1914 The British House of Commons passes Irish Home Rule. Born on May 25 1803 Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist and philosopher, who wrote Nature. 1886 Philip Murray, American union builder and founder of the Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO). 1889 Igor Sikorsky, American aviation engineer who developed the first successful helicopter. 1898 Gene Tunney, heavyweight boxing champion
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:25:36 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Article on the Boer War This is the centenary of the beginning of the Boer War (1899 - 1902), and there is a good article in the current issue of _History today_ Vol. 49, No. 5, pp. 43+ (May 1999). "When the world loved the Boers" by Donal Lowry tells how the media created an image of the tough Boer which endeared them to the non-British readers. >WHEN IN OCTOBER 1899 the British Empire went to war against the Boers or Afrikaners of the >Transvaal (South African Republic) and the Orange Free State, it was widely believed that the conflict >would be brief. It became, however, the largest war waged by Britain since the Napoleonic Wars, even >including the Crimea, involving the strongest forces sent from English shores since Henry V's army >departed for Agincourt. It was the first of the modern media wars, waged for the hearts and minds of both >metropolitan and global opinion, in which military officers and civilian politicians on all sides had to pay >acute attention to the coverage provided by the press. .... > >Imperialists in Britain and its colonies of settlement believed the very essence of British strength to be at >stake. Thousands of volunteers from Canada, Australia and New Zealand flocked to the imperial colours >in South Africa. Britain, however, was made to appear both militarily and physically degenerate by the >three years and almost half-a-million men it took to defeat the Boers, whose forces never numbered more >than 88,000. During the guerrilla phase of the war, between June 1900 and the Boer surrender in May >1902, the tactics of farm burning and concentration camps employed by the British added further charges >of brutality and moral corruption before the bar of world opinion. > ... >Copyright History Today Ltd. May 1999 I read the full article courtesy of ProQuest. Stephen D mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca ------------------------------ End of Gaslight Digest V1 #71 *****************************