In this issue: Today in History - May 13 Florence Nightingale Re: Florence Nightingale Re: Florence Nightingale Today in History - May 14 More Holmesiana Re: More Holmesiana Re: More Holmesiana Kate Chopin: Background Le Fanu's _Haunted lives_ so far RE: More Holmesiana Re: Kate Chopin: Background Seeking elusive word describing character revealed RE: More Holmesiana RE: More Holmesiana Holmes and Cortez RE: More Holmesiana RE: Holmes and Cortez Re: Holmes and Cortez RE: More Holmesiana About "The cardboard box" <WAS: More Holmesiana> Re: About "The cardboard box" <WAS: More Holmesiana> Mrs. Beeton in the New York Times Gaslight in the _Globe and Mail_ (99-may-15) Re: More Holmesiana/Pastiches re: Seeking elusive word describing character revealed -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:15:49 -0600 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - May 13 1846 The United States declares war on Mexico, after fighting has already begun. 1861 Britain declares its neutrality in the American Civil War. 1864 The Battle of Resaca commences as Union General Sherman fights towards Atlanta. 1888 Slavery is abolished in Brazil. 1912 Royal Flying Corps is established in England, it is the predecessor of the Royal Air Force. 1913 Igor Sikorsky flies the first four engine aircraft. Born on May 13 1842 Sir Arthur Sullivan, composer songwriter who, with W.S. Gilbert, wrote HMS Pinafore. 1914 Joe Louis, world heavyweight boxing champion from 1937 to 1949. His boxing record was 63-3 with 49 knock-outs.
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Florence Nightingale Concerning the lady of the lamp: Below is the portion of the article (April 27) to which I was referring in my post on FN's ouster by a British union (not an association, as I had said). Whether this matches up to Lytton Strachey's vision of the woman I don't know. The situation is even worse than I recalled in my recent post, since it appears that the union is even more upset at the fact that Nightingale was white, whereas nursing is now a "multicultural" profession. Sounds like racism in reverse to me. At any rate, it is more of the politically correct nonsense that one hopes will, in time, abate. Bob C. << Nurses ditch Florence Nightingale as patron DELEGATES at the annual health conference of Unison yesterday voted to ditch Florence Nightingale as the patron saint of nurses. The union members voted to support a demand that International Nurses' Day should be moved from Nightingale's birthday on May 12 to a "more appropriate" date. The Lady of the Lamp, whose work tending the Crimean War's wounded established her as a popular heroine, is no longer considered a fitting representative of modern nursing, the Brighton conference was told. Figures such as the Jamaican nurse Mary Seacole, also in the Crimea, or Elizabeth Fry, founder of the Institution of Nursing Sisters, would be more appropriate for today's multi-cultural mix, delegates decided. Supporting the motion, Wendy Wheeler, a health visitor, said: "All over Eastern Europe statues of Lenin are being taken off their pedestals . . . the nursing profession must, as we enter the new millennium, start to exorcise the myth of Florence Nightingale, not necessarily because Florence Nightingale was a very bad person, but because the impact of her legacy, or more correctly the interpretation of that legacy, has held the nursing profession back too long." She added that Nightingale supported the subordinate role of nurses to doctors, and opposed their registration and three-year training. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Next page: TV aims Knockout blow at hi-tech games Arts (Mon - Fri) | Books (Sat) (Thu) | British News | Busine
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:41:37 -0600 (MDT) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Florence Nightingale My thanks to Bob Champ for casting a little more illumination on the Lady of the Lamp, or rather, the attitude of some group - I'm not acquainted with Unison - toward what they see as her attitudes. As for myself, I respect the realism of someone who, when greeting an enthuisastic group of eager volunteer nurses to the Crimea, informed then bluntly that "the strongest will be needed at the wash-tubs", which they were. I thought Elizabeth Fry was better known, and widely respected, for her work in prison reform? Peter Wood
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:24:14 -0700 From: Jack Kolb <kolb(at)UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: Florence Nightingale The disagreement probably reflects the double-sided character of Nightingale: she was wonderfully anti-establishment (especially to a military bureaucracy which makes our own look radically progressive) in her time, but her own rigidity is less admirable today, especially as a model. At the same time, let's not just assume that Lytton Strachey had--or has--the last word. Even if he were objective, his sources would be limited. And he was hardly objective (though I love Eminent Victorians, and would love to see us discuss it). Jack Kolb Dept. of English, UCLA kolb(at)ucla.edu
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:43:10 -0600 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - May 14 1804 Explorer William Clark sets off from St. Louis, Missouri, to travel upriver to wait for Meriwether Lewis. The two will soon depart together on a journey to reach the Pacific. 1853 Gail Borden applies for patent for condensed milk. 1863 Union General Nathanial Banks takes his army out of Alexandria, Louisiana, and heads towards Port Hudson along the Mississippi River. The fort is considered the second most important strategic location on the river, after Vicksburg. 1897 Guglielmo Marconi sends first communication by wireless telegraph.
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 01:23:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: More Holmesiana While sitting here at 1:30 in the morning, listening to Prokofiev's magical, delightful "Lieutenant Kije" suite, I thought I would send on the following article from Sunday's _Times_ of London about the Great Detective. Bob C. Last words of killer gave life to Sherlock Holmes by Nicholas Hellen Media Correspondent SHERLOCK HOLMES, regarded by many as the world's greatest fictional detective, owed his literary origins to a note scribbled by a condemned murderer as he stood at the gallows. The doomed man, Eugene Chantrelle, identified Dr Joseph Bell, the medical instructor of Arthur Conan Doyle, as the sleuth who secretly helped the police to secure his conviction. "My compliments to Joseph Bell," he wrote. "He did a good job in bringing me to the scaffold." BBC researchers are convinced that the note alerted Conan Doyle to the double life of his eminent tutor, and helped to inspire some of the most memorable cases of the fictional Victorian detective. Tomorrow, at the Cannes Film Festival, the BBC will announce plans for a feature film and a television series starring Bell as the real Sherlock Holmes with Conan Doyle, instead of Watson, as his loyal assistant. Jonathan Pryce, the actor best known for his role as the villain in the James Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies, is tipped to play the part of Holmes. David Pirie, the script editor of the dramatisation, said fresh clues to the origins of Holmes had emerged among the memoirs of Conan Doyle's Edinburgh contemporaries. The execution of Chantrelle, in May 1878, was the talk of Edinburgh. The mutton-chopped Frenchman was a teacher who gassed his wife, a former pupil he had seduced when she was 15. The case will provide the plot for the first BBC adaptation, Blood Line: The Dark Beginning of Sherlock Holmes. Conan Doyle, a native of Edinburgh, became a pupil of Bell's that same year, and later worked under him at the city's Royal Infirmary. Fellow medics frequently witnessed displays of Bell's astonishing powers of deduction. On one occasion he took a new patient and promptly announced that the man was a recently discharged soldier, an NCO from a Highland regiment stationed in Barbados. He explained to his amazed students: "The man was respectful, but did not remove his hat. They do not in the army, but he would have learnt civilian ways had he been long discharged. He has an air of authority and he is obviously Scottish. As to Barbados, his complaint is elephantiasis, which is West Indian." But while Bell was happy to show off to his medical colleagues, he drew a veil over his role as a consultant to the police, which the BBC team believes it has now lifted. Pirie, whose research team has spent two years poring over unpublished archives, said: "We believe he worked for the police from at least 1887 to 1893, when he was a witness in the Monson case." Alfred Monson was accused of shooting his pupil, Cecil Hamborough, at a trial in August 1893. During his own lifetime, Conan Doyle made contradictory statements about the inspiration for the Holmes stories. In May 1892 he told his former teacher: "It is most certainly to you that I owe Sherlock Holmes." But on another occasion, he admitted that Holmes was based partly on Edgar Allen Poe's fictional French detective, C Auguste Dupin, who first appeared in Poe's story The Murders in the Rue Morgue in 1841. Conan Doyle's family originally came from France. Sherlockians have also pondered the mystery of Holmes's background since the first story, A Study in Scarlet, appeared in Beeton's Christmas Annual in 1887. One theory had it that he was named after a cricketer, Mordecai Sherlock. Now the BBC believes it has pieced together the real reason for Conan Doyle's determination to muddy the trail. The young Conan Doyle spent his childhood in poverty and was humiliated by the descent of his father, Charles, into alcoholism. Charles was finally committed to an asylum, with his son signing the commital form. That same year, 1887, Holmes sprang into life in Conan Doyle's hands, suffering from the same black moods as Charles Doyle and taking drugs. One tale, The Cardboard Box, was held back from publication because its contents were regarded as too shocking. In August 1893 Charles Doyle died and two months later his son killed off Holmes, sending him to his death over a waterfall in the arms of his enemy, Moriarty. The full story may emerge only when Conan Doyle's unpublished diaries are released after a lengthy legal wrangle. But, according to Pirie, the literary creation of Holmes represented Conan Doyle's tribute to Bell for providing the guidance his father was incapable of giving him. "We have peeled behind the mask," he said. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things Philippians 4:8 rchamp7927(at)aol.com robertchamp(at)netscape.net _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:59:32 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: More Holmesiana >That same year, 1887, Holmes sprang into life in Conan Doyle's hands, >suffering from the same black moods as Charles Doyle and taking drugs. One >tale, The Cardboard Box, was held back from publication because its contents >were regarded as too shocking. Has this story ever been published? I'm sure that it would be fascinating to read. Kiwi Carlisle carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:50:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Kujen(at)aol.com Subject: Re: More Holmesiana In a message dated 5/17/99 10:02:11 AM, CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu writes: << >That same year, 1887, Holmes sprang into life in Conan Doyle's hands, >suffering from the same black moods as Charles Doyle and taking drugs. One >tale, The Cardboard Box, was held back from publication because its contents >were regarded as too shocking. Has this story ever been published? I'm sure that it would be fascinating to read. Kiwi Carlisle carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu >> Perhaps like the 'giant rat of Sumatra' the world isn't ready for it. (Hope I have that right)
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:50:52 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Kate Chopin: Background For "Desiree's Baby". Though we have read a little of Chopin's work already on this list I thought I would post this interesting background (not overly long). If you like her stories I highly recommend the combined books BAYOU FOLK and A NIGHT IN ACADIE: **************************************************************************** Chopin, Kate 1851-1904, Writer. Although Katherine O'Flaherty Chopin was a native of St. Louis (born 8 February 1851) and spent barely 14 years in Louisiana, her fiction is identified with the South. At 19, Kate O'Flaherty married Oscar Chopin, a young cotton broker, and moved with him to New Orleans and later to his family home in Cloutierville, La., near the Red River. After Oscar died in 1882, she returned with their six children to St. Louis; but when, eight years later, she began to write, it was the Creoles and 'Cadians of her Louisiana experiences that animated her fiction. Distinctly unsentimental in her approach, she often relied on popular period motifs, such as the conflict of the Yankee businessman and the Creole, a theme that informs her first novel, At Fault (1890), and several of her short stories. These vivid and economical tales, richly flavored with local dialect, provide penetrating views of the heterogeneous culture of south Louisiana. Many of them were collected in Bayou Folk (1894) and A Night in Acadie. Chopin's second novel, The Awakening (1899), also strongly evokes the region, but is primarily a lyrical, stunning study of a young woman whose deep personal discontents lead to adultery and suicide. Praised for its craft and damned for its content, the novel was a scandal, and Chopin, always sensitive to her critics, gradually lost confidence in her gift and soon ceased to write. Chopin died of a brain hemorrhage after a strenuous day at the St. Louis World's Fair, where she had been a regular visitor. She was remembered only as one of the southern local colorists of the 1890s until The Awakening was rediscovered in the 1970s as an early masterpiece of American realism and a superb rendering of female experience. Barbara C. Ewell Loyola University Barbara C. Ewell, Kate Chopin (1986); Per Seyersted, Kate Chopin: A Critical Biography (1969); Peggy Skaggs, Kate Chopin (1985); Marlene Springer, Edith Wharton and Kate Chopin: A Reference Guide (1976). Source: From ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUTHERN CULTURE edited by Charles Reagan Wilson and William Ferris. Copyright (c) 1989 by the University of North Carolina Press. Used by permission of the publisher. Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:51:44 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Le Fanu's _Haunted lives_ so far When I was welcoming a new Gaslight listmember offlist last week, I was bemoaning the lack of Victorian mysteries which would still hold our interest as modern readers. I had completely forgotten that last week's Gaslight reading was the latest episode in the Le Fanu serial _Haunted lives_ (1868). I have been enjoying this story immensely, but because of the limited discussion it generates, I'll work to releasing the remaining chapters all at once so those who have been reading it can reach the conclusion. The first three episodes are at: http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/lfanumen.htm#haunted I'm wondering if I have adequately captured the story so far with the following summary: Our raisonneur opens the story with "Oh! pretty Laura -- odd, wayward, misunderstood, full of faults -- with many perfections, I am sure, that others possessed not -- I am going to jot down my recollections of you, and what I know of a story as odd as your character." Laura Challys Gray, young and beautiful heiress, settles at Guildford Hall in suburban London, with her companion Mrs. Julia Wardell, and near her enamoured cousin, Charles Mannering. At the opera, Laura spies a handsome young Frenchman, Alfred Dacre in her cousin's, Lord Ardenbroke's, box. When the Frenchman rescues Laura and Mrs. Wardell from an accident, he begins a series of visits to their home as a welcome guest. Lord Ardenbroke is not happy that Laura has made Dacre's acquaintance, but will not explain why. Meanwhile, Laura is being petitioned by several people (Gryston, Larkin, Levi and Rev. Parker) to free a debtor, Guy de Beaumirail, another Frenchman, but she will not since he wronged her late sister in the extreme, several years ago. De Beaumirail claims to be plotting his revenge on Laura from his jail cell. Laura begins to receive discomforting anonymous letters which ostensibly encourage her to keep de Beaumirail a prisoner. They carry a seal: "Choose which dart," referring to the figures of cupid or doom. Encountering trespassers and gypsies, she turns to Dacre to find who is writing these letters to her. Dacre, a man of thoro mystery himself, grows to be more in her confidence, a fact which greatly irritates the thwarted Mannering. Dacre already knows de Beaumirail. And yet, when Laura asks a matriarch whether she recalls the Dacre family, the answer is that the Dacres had died out, including Alfred, more than ten years ago. Stephen D mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:54:38 -0400 From: "Roberts, Leonard" <lroberts(at)email.uncc.edu> Subject: RE: More Holmesiana The Adventure of the Cardboard Box was published in The Strand Magazine between December 1892 and November 1893 and later published in The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes. I will refrain from relating the plot except to say that an incident in the plot reminded me of a certain action of Saucy Jack a few years earlier. I'm not trying to be obscure, I just don't want to ruin the story for those who have not read it. Len Roberts > From: Kujen(at)aol.com [SMTP:Kujen(at)aol.com] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:50 AM > > In a message dated 5/17/99 10:02:11 AM, CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu > writes: > > << >That same year, 1887, Holmes sprang into life in Conan Doyle's hands, > >suffering from the same black moods as Charles Doyle and taking drugs. > One > >tale, The Cardboard Box, was held back from publication because its > contents > >were regarded as too shocking. > > Has this story ever been published? I'm sure that it would > be fascinating to read. > > Kiwi Carlisle > carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu >> > > Perhaps like the 'giant rat of Sumatra' the world isn't ready for it. > (Hope I have that right)
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:04:50 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: Kate Chopin: Background Just to add to this very nice summary... when The Awakening was published, it was attacked as an indecent work. Despite this, the women's literary societies discussed it in their public meetings, and I think one of our St. Louis women's literary groups gave Kate Chopin an award. Funny how what was indecent to the (presumably) male critic was not to the female reader of the day. Kiwi Carlisle carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:56:39 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Seeking elusive word describing character revealed I have often, while browsing the _Encyclopedia Britannica_, hardcopy, come across a Greek word which appears to be a cobbled-together 19th C. invention. It describes the moment in a dramatic plot when a character's true identity is revealed. I presume this happens in the denouement, after the climax. I have thought about this strange word recently in connection with _Haunted lives_, but cannot recall it to mind. Now I cannot even remember with which letter of the alphabet it begins, so that I can browse for it again. I tried _EB_ online, but the attempt was useless. I'll assume it's my bad search strategies. Would anyone know the word I am describing? or where to look? Stephen D mailto:Sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:38:07 -0600 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: RE: More Holmesiana >The Adventure of the Cardboard Box was published in The Strand Magazine >between December 1892 and November 1893 and later published in The Memoirs >of Sherlock Holmes. I will refrain from relating the plot Is this the story about a woman named Sarah & her sisters & a sailor named Jim? athan, trying not to give away any important details. ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:02:26 -0400 From: "Roberts, Leonard" <lroberts(at)email.uncc.edu> Subject: RE: More Holmesiana Yes it is! And congratulations on your excellent memory! I had to look up the story in the copy of The Canon I keep in the office. Do you remember the incident in the story like an action by Jack? The date of the story make me doubt the similarity is a coincidence. Len Roberts > >The Adventure of the Cardboard Box was published in The Strand Magazine > >between December 1892 and November 1893 and later published in The > Memoirs > >of Sherlock Holmes. I will refrain from relating the plot > > > Is this the story about a woman named Sarah & her sisters & a sailor named > Jim? > athan, trying not to give away any important details. > > ayc(at)uiuc.edu >
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:23:45 -0600 (MDT) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: Holmes and Cortez On Mon, 17 May 1999, athan chilton wrote: >>The Adventure of the Cardboard Box was published in The Strand Magazine >>between December 1892 and November 1893 and later published in The Memoirs >>of Sherlock Holmes. I will refrain from relating the plot > Is this the story about a woman named Sarah & her sisters & a sailor named Jim? > athan, trying not to give away any important details. Indeed yes, it is. As a (practically) life-long Sherlockian, I am fascinated to meet, even tho' only by e-mail, people such as Kiwi who it seems, have had the good fortune *not* to have read all the Sherlock Homes stories (fifty-six short and four long). As one would expect, the members of my other newsgroups (Hounds of the Internet and <acdmaillist> - "acd" being Arthur Conan Doyle's initials) are Sherlockian and Doylean experts who spend much or all of their time discussing items relating to the Sherlockian Canon and ACD's life and works. It's difficult to accept that there are other equally or more intelligent people out in the world who have never read any of the Holmes stories, or perhaps glanced at two or three of them in their lives. I'll tell you something - the overwhelming feeling that most of us (and certainly myself) have towards people like Kiwi is envy. Yes, there's a pleasure in reading the well-known and well-loved stories again - and again. But the joy of reading them for the first time can never come back. Kiwi, if you really haven't read the Sherlock Holmes stories, or maybe, as I said, just glanced at one or two in your life, I have a suggestion. See if your university library happens to have a bound set of the old "Strand" magazine - the University of Alberta certainly does, so I speak from personal experience - go into the stacks one quiet afternoon, and hunt out the July-December 1891 volume. Look for "A Scandal in Bohemia" by Arthur Conan Doyle, and settle down to read it undisturbed. Someone described the writing of history as telling "wie es wirklich war" - - how it *really* was. I realised what the writer meant. That afternoon was how it felt when one was young in 1891, and met Sherlock Holmes for the first time. But whether you can lay hands on the original version or not, try it for yourself anyway. And remember, out there are many, many people who would give a great deal to share the experience of reading the Canon for the first time. Lucky you, Peter Wood "Then felt I like some watcher of the skies When a new planet swims into his ken Or like stout Cortez, when with eagle eyes He gazed at the Pacific, with all his men, Silent upon a peak in Darien"
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:35:47 -0600 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: RE: More Holmesiana >Yes it is! And congratulations on your excellent memory! I had to look up >the story in the copy of The Canon I keep in the office. Do you remember the >incident in the story like an action by Jack? The date of the story make me >doubt the similarity is a coincidence. I don't remember 'Saucy Jack', though, so I can't say. I do remember the Holmes story! Sort of a spoiler: Or maybe it's just that when a child, long before the idea of 'past lives' was current, I used to tell people I had been Vincent Van Gogh in a former existence... > >Len Roberts > > > >> >The Adventure of the Cardboard Box was published in The Strand Magazine >> >between December 1892 and November 1893 and later published in The >> Memoirs >> >of Sherlock Holmes. I will refrain from relating the plot >> >> >> Is this the story about a woman named Sarah & her sisters & a sailor named >> Jim? >> athan, trying not to give away any important details. >> >> ayc(at)uiuc.edu >>
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:42:53 -0400 From: "Roberts, Leonard" <lroberts(at)email.uncc.edu> Subject: RE: Holmes and Cortez Kiwi, if you can't find the bound set of the original Strand, the next best thing that I have found is a copy of The Original Illustrated Sherlock Holmes which has the illustrations from the Strand Magazine. And what looks to be the type used in the magazine as well. But the suggestion is quite worth the effort and I am sure you can find the bound set in St. Louis with a minimum of effort. If you do, let us know what you think of the experience. Len Roberts Peter Wood said: > Kiwi, if you really haven't read the Sherlock Holmes stories, or maybe, as > I said, just glanced at one or two in your life, I have a suggestion. See > if your university library happens to have a bound set of the old "Strand" > magazine - the University of Alberta certainly does, so I speak from > personal experience - go into the stacks one quiet afternoon, and hunt out > the July-December 1891 volume. Look for "A Scandal in Bohemia" by Arthur > Conan Doyle, and settle down to read it undisturbed. > Someone described the writing of history as telling "wie es wirklich war" > - how it *really* was. I realised what the writer meant. That afternoon > was how it felt when one was young in 1891, and met Sherlock Holmes for > the first time. > But whether you can lay hands on the original version or not, try it for > yourself anyway. And remember, out there are many, many people who would > give a great deal to share the experience of reading the Canon for the > first time. > Lucky you, > Peter Wood > > "Then felt I like some watcher of the skies > When a new planet swims into his ken > Or like stout Cortez, when with eagle eyes > He gazed at the Pacific, with all his men, > Silent upon a peak in Darien"
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:51:52 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: Holmes and Cortez Oh, but I HAVE read the Canon, and I simply don't recall the Cardboard Box. I have a nearly inexhaustible memory for some authors, but I'm afraid Doyle isn't one of them. Ask me about Dorothy L. Sayers or, in our period, Bram Stoker or Edith Nesbit, and I'll happily oblige you with reams of information. I don't know why I can't quote either Holmes or Father Brown with the accuracy with which I can quote say, A. A. Milne, but it's so...I suspect that it comes of having read the stories usually in large blocks, rather than as individual works, savored over and over. I was a little astonished by Bob's story about Dr. Bell, BTW, as I had always had the impression that the good doctor's students all knew about his deductive abilities. Kiwi
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:50:28 -0400 From: "Roberts, Leonard" <lroberts(at)email.uncc.edu> Subject: RE: More Holmesiana I was being obscure as usual. I was referring to Jack the Ripper. Len Roberts > >Yes it is! And congratulations on your excellent memory! I had to look up > >the story in the copy of The Canon I keep in the office. Do you remember > the > >incident in the story like an action by Jack? The date of the story make > me > >doubt the similarity is a coincidence. > > I don't remember 'Saucy Jack', though, so I can't say. I do remember the > Holmes story! > > Sort of a spoiler: > > > Or maybe it's just that when a child, long before the idea of 'past lives' > was current, I used to tell people I had been Vincent Van Gogh in a former > existence... > > > >Len Roberts > > > > > > > >> >The Adventure of the Cardboard Box was published in The Strand > Magazine > >> >between December 1892 and November 1893 and later published in The > >> Memoirs > >> >of Sherlock Holmes. I will refrain from relating the plot > >> > >> > >> Is this the story about a woman named Sarah & her sisters & a sailor > named > >> Jim? > >> athan, trying not to give away any important details. > >> > >> ayc(at)uiuc.edu > >> > >
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:11:40 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: About "The cardboard box" <WAS: More Holmesiana> Len R. writes: I will refrain from relating the plot ... I am not so reticent. The Sherlock Holmes canon and the three Auguste Dupin stories by Poe are permanently on Gaslight's spoiler list, so they are freely discussable. I see what Kiwi means about reading the Holmes stories en bloc. I am having trouble remembering the plot of "The cardboard box", but I think it's the one where Holmes tracks the decamped villain by asking the local greengrocers if anyone's been in to borrow moving supplies. Stephen D. mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:11:50 -0600 (MDT) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: Re: About "The cardboard box" <WAS: More Holmesiana> On Mon, 17 May 1999 sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA wrote: > Len R. writes: I will refrain from relating the plot .. > I am not so reticent. The Sherlock Holmes canon and the three Auguste Dupin > stories by Poe are permanently on Gaslight's spoiler list, so they are freely > discussable. > I see what Kiwi means about reading the Holmes stories en bloc. I am having > trouble remembering the plot of "The cardboard box", but I think it's the one > where Holmes tracks the decamped villain by asking the local greengrocers if > anyone's been in to borrow moving supplies > Stephen D. Ermm, actually, no; it's the one involving the retired Shakespearean actor who believes he's Mark Antony, and takes the speech about "Lend me your ears..." rather too literally. Peter Wood
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:36:38 -0500 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu> Subject: Mrs. Beeton in the New York Times The New York Times Magazine has a Millenium special issue on women in the last 1000 years which features an article of interest to our period. http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/millennium/m2/atwood-beeton.html shows how Mrs. Beeton in 1861, Emily Post in 1923, and Amy Vanderbilt in 1999 answer the same three questions. The article also gives a link directly to a Mrs. Beeton web site. I regret that they did not include my heroine, Miss Manners, who combines the way of life of a modern woman with the sensibility of a Victorian one. Kiwi Carlisle carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:39:58 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Gaslight in the _Globe and Mail_ (99-may-15) I have to thank the freelancing Gerald Levitch for including Gaslight in his "Selected bibliography of cyberspace classics", in the weekend _Globe and Mail_. In the Arts section, under The Home Page, Levitch gives an excellcent, full-page introduction to books on line, then caps it off with the webliography. All the essential sites are listed in the webliography, then Levitch wanders into the eclectic. The function of Gaslight in this instance would appear to be to round out the selection of websites listed, so that they weren't all the "dry" classics of yesteryear, and to give a slight Canadian emphasis. Other interesting sites for Gaslighters would be: _The Germ_, a hypermedia project about Rossetti's short-lived magazine ( http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/courses/ennc986/germ.html ), Theodore Roosevelt Selected Works ( http://www.bartleby.com/tr/ ), Aleister Crowley's _The Equinox_ ( http://leapinglaughter.org/equinox/ ), and the fruitful Australian Literature Database at the University of Sydney ( http://setis.library.usyd.edu.au/ozlit/ ) which includes past Gaslight alumnus such as Barbara Baynton, Louis Becke, Henry Kendall, Henry Lawson, A.B. Paterson, Marcus Clarke, Steele Rudd, and Gaslight wannabes like Fergus Hume and Rolf Boldrewood. Stephen D mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:21:45 -0500 From: Brian McMillan <brianbks(at)netins.net> Subject: Re: More Holmesiana/Pastiches >Kiwi Carlisle > >Perhaps like the 'giant rat of Sumatra' the world isn't ready for it. >(Hope I have that right) For those of us who have read & reread "the Canon", there are always the pastiches, including one entitled "The Giant Rat of Sumatra", by Richard L. Boyer. I've yet to read it, but Gary Lovisi recommends it in his SHEROCK HOLMES THE GREAT DETECTIVE IN PAPERBACK, which also lists a number of the other pastiches. Brian McM.
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:44:41 -0600 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: re: Seeking elusive word describing character revealed - --0__=3guG4SVnZ692E1evpGiwnoc4d3d7OMxPIBuM1b0oIIx7SdPAHeaANs96 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Jim K. responded to my Greek word search with a clue that he had found in _Encyclopedia Brittannica_. >peripeteia >(Greek: "reversal"), the turning point in a drama after which the plot moves >steadily to its denouement. It is discussed by Aristotle in the Poetics as >the shift of the tragic protagonist's fortune from good to bad, which is >essential to the plot of a... "peripeteia" Encyclop - --0__=3guG4SVnZ692E1evpGiwnoc4d3d7OMxPIBuM1b0oIIx7SdPAHeaANs96 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =E6dia Britannica Online <http://www.eb.com:180/bol/topic?eu=3D60752&sctn=3D1> [Accessed May 17, 1999]. As Jim hoped it would, this clue led me to the word I needed: anagnoris= is. Both words date from Aristotle, and tho quite specific originally, I think m= ay be adaptable to our analysis of 19thC. stories. In the example given belo= w, the anagnorisis occurs in the climax, not in the denouement as I expected. = My idea was that the term applied to the dying count at the end of a book, who = says, "By the way, you're really my daughter, not my servant, and all my fortune = is yours." >anagnorisis > >(Greek: "recognition"), in a literary work, the startling discovery th= at >produces a change from ignorance to knowledge. It is discussed by >Aristotle in the _Poetics_ as an essential part of the plot of a trage= dy, >although anagnorisis occurs in comedy, epic, and, at a later date, >the novel as well. Anagnorisis usually involves revelation of the true= >identity of persons previously unknown, as when a father recognizes >a stranger as his son, or vice versa. One of the finest occurs in >Sophocles' _Oedipus Rex_ when a messenger reveals to Oedipus his >true birth, and Oedipus recognizes his wife Jocasta as his mother, >the man he slew at the crossroads as his father, and himself as the >unnatural sinner who brought misfortune on Thebes. This recognition >is the more artistically satisfying because it is accompanied by a >peripeteia ("reversal"), the shift in fortune from good to bad that >moves on to the tragic catastrophe. An anagnorisis is not always >accompanied by a peripeteia, as in the Odyssey, when Alcinous, >ruler of Phaeacia, has his minstrel entertain a shipwrecked stranger >with songs of the Trojan War, and the stranger begins to weep and >reveals himself as none other than Odysseus. Aristotle discusses >several kinds of anagnorisis employed by dramatists. The simplest >kind, used, as he says, "from poverty of wit," is recognition by scars= , >birthmarks, or tokens. More interesting are those that arise naturally= >from incidents of the plot. "anagnorisis" Encyclop=E6dia Britannica Online <http://www.eb.com:180/bol/topic?eu=3D7413&sctn=3D1> [Accessed May 18, 1999]. = - --0__=3guG4SVnZ692E1evpGiwnoc4d3d7OMxPIBuM1b0oIIx7SdPAHeaANs96-- ------------------------------ End of Gaslight Digest V1 #69 *****************************