Gaslight Digest Wednesday, May 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 068


In this issue:


   CHAT: modern mystery writers seen and viewed on www.CBS.com
   off period, but a nice poem
   Re: off period, but a nice poem
   Today in History -May 6
   "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn"
   Re: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn"
   Norwegian vs. Danish <WAS: Re: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn">
   Re: Titanic on the Discovery Channel
   Re: Norwegian vs. Danish <WAS: Re: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn">
   Today in History - May 7
   Chat: Children's site
   Re:  Music (Magic Violin Dept.)
   Off-Topic: Astaire's 100th
   Chat: NY Time Book Reviews
   Call for Papers (fwd)
   Today in History - May 10
   Etext avail: more stories by Jonas Lie
   Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States
   Seeking H.G. Wells' _The chronic argonauts_
   Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States
   Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States
   Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States
   Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States
   Today in History - May 11
   Dream portents: <WAS: Today in History - May 11>
   Today in History - May 12
   Re: Today in History - May 12
   Re: Today in History - May 12
   Re: Today in History - May 12

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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 13:46:43 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: CHAT: modern mystery writers seen and viewed on www.CBS.com

     I don't follow DorothyL very closely, so I don't know if this has been
announced there.  The CBS Sunday Morning series which interviews modern mystery
writers can be read and viewed on the excellent CBS page listed below.

     Currently the page offers Elmore Leonard, James Lee Burke, and Colin Dexter
 among several others.  Real Player is required to view.

http://www.cbs.com/prd1/now/template.display?p_section=3447

                                   Stephen D
                          mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:34:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Rogers <jetan(at)ionet.net>
Subject: off period, but a nice poem

Pablo Neruda (1904-1973)

Poema Veinte

     I can write the saddest verses tonight.
     Write, for example: "The night sky is full of stars,
     And far away, blue, celestial bodies tremble".
     The night wind whirls in the sky and sings.
     I can write the saddest verses tonight.
     I loved her, and sometimes she also loved me.
     Through nights like tonight I held her in my arms.
     I kissed her so many times under the infinite sky.
     She loved me, and sometimes I also loved her.
     How could one not have loved her great still eyes.
     I can write the saddest verses tonight.
     To think that I do not have her. To feel that I lost her.
     To hear the immense night, even more immeasurable without her.
     And the verse falls to the soul as dew to the pasture.
     It does not matter that my love could not keep her.
     The night sky is full of stars, and she is not with me.
     This is all. In the distance someone sings. In the distance.
     My soul cannot be relieved now that I lost her.
     My eyes search for her, trying to bring her close to me.
     My heart searches for her, and she is not with me.
     The same night, whitening the same trees.
     We, of that time, are no longer the same.
     I no longer love her, it is true, but how I loved her.
     My voice tried to find the wind to caress her hearing.
     Another's. She must belong to someone else, just as she belonged to my
kisses.
     Her voice, her bright body. Her infinite eyes.
     I no longer love her, it is true, but maybe I still love her.
     Love is so short, and forgetting takes so long.
     Because through nights like tonight I held her in my arms,
     My soul cannot be relieved now that I lost her.
     Even when this is the last pain she causes me
     And these are the last verses that I write about her.

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:58:58 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: off period, but a nice poem

James,
     it so good to hear from you.  I hope you are not living in one of the
affected areas.
     Thanks for sharing the lovely poem.
                                   Stephen D
                          mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:43:45 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History -May 6

            1861
                  Arkansas and Tennessee secede from the Union.
            1864
                  In the second day of the Battle of Wilderness between Union 
General Ulysses S. Grant
                  and Confederate General Robert E. Lee, Confederate Gen. James 
Longstreet is
                  wounded by his own men.
            1877
                  Chief Crazy Horse surrenders to U.S. troops in Nebraska.

       Born on May 6
             1840
                  Frederick William Stowe, son of the famous Harriet Beecher 
Stowe and fighter in the
                  Civil War for the Union.
            1856
                  Robert Edward Peary, arctic explorer and the first man to 
reach the North Pole.
            1856
                  Sigmund Freud, father of psychology who had the strangest 
dreams.
                  [NOTE: This time it's them trying to be funny, not me.  I'd 
say something like,
                   "The love of Sigmund Freud's life gives birth to him."]
            1915
                  Orson Welles, actor, director, and writer, famous for his 
movie Citizen Kane.

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:35:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn"

This tale incorporates two central ideas familiar to anyone who  has
read much myth and folk-tale.  First, the idea of the culture hero--i.e.,
someonenwho brings a specialized knowledge to a people that helps pull
that people out of a more primitive state--is clearly apparent in Jack and
his ability to build a new kind of boat.  Since boats were the means of
livelihood for Jack's countrymen,  the individual who could show a way of
constructing a better one would naturally become part of the mythic
corpus.  Second, the story of the young man who tricks someone much
stronger (as in "Jack the Giant-killer) or smarter than himself, often
winning a beautiful girl in the bargain, is the obvious impetus behind the
story of Jack, the Gan-Fin, and Seimke.  (Seimke seems to play the same
role here as Ariadne does in the Theseus and the Minotaur myth).  The
young man is also often the youngest and most inexperienced of his peers,
though full of courage--as Jack proves to be when he goes sailing for the
first time.

This hardly explains the success of the story, however.   Jonas Lie's
ability to create not only the atmosphere of the folk-tale (even if the
translator deserves credit for doing this in English) but the characters
and landscapes familiar to his fellow countrymen really forms the basis
for the tale's originality. The image of the Gan-Finn, hidden in smoke and
surrounded by bees and flies--his messengers--is particularly striking.
Lie also very effectively fills his story with dream images: for
instance, the dream of flying, used in the episode wherein
Seimke sends a pair of magic snowshoes to help rescue Jack from the
Gan-Finn's spell.  (I have no doubt that the popularity of modern day
ice-skating is connected to this kind of dream.)

It is also interesting to see the forces of nature presented so starkly.
Most of us are familiar with the world of Greek and Roman myths, where
nature is a pleasing, though not always trustworthy, backdrop (in many
myths, of course, it is central).  Nature here is not beautiful or the
image of Dame Kind; rather, it is all treachery.  At its heart seems to be
a malevolence that has man as its object.  Whatever good comes of it must
be wrested away, stolen, earned through enormous suffering.  As nature's
representative, as it were, the Gan-Finn here is not only a cthonic force
but a demonic one, jealous that any of his power (or the power of Nature)
should be taken over by human beings.

I liked this story, though it seemed to me overly complex at times--the
writer intruded upon the storyteller a little too much.

Bob C.


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rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy, meditate on these things
                                 Philippians 4:8

rchamp7927(at)aol.com       robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:09:11 -0500
From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn"

I enjoyed it too, however, I wonder about the "Jack" part of it.
Is that name used in the original as well?  I'd never encountered
Jack as a Scandinavian name.

This Jack certainly fits the archetype of "Jack tales", right down
to acting simple or foolish when he wants everyone to leave
him alone.

The ending did seem more novelistic than "folky", and with all
the folky touches in the story, it felt very strange and inconsistent.

Kiwi
carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:17:23 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Norwegian vs. Danish <WAS: Re: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn">

A friend, whose favourite author is Jonas Lie, assures me that he WAS a
Norwegian.  The translator had to work with Danish because this was considered
the classical language in Norway at the time.  Modern Norwegian was
"invented"/codified in the late 19th C.

                                   Stephen D
                          mailto:sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:46:55 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: Titanic on the Discovery Channel

Bounced by my own mailing list!!!!

I guess the Majordomo rejected this post from me because it contained the word
"sub*scribe"

- ---------------------- Forwarded by Stephen Davies/Academic/MRC on 05/06/99
01:19 PM ---------------------------

From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:16:10 -0600
Subject: Re: Titanic on the Discovery Channel
To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA

Thanks, Bob C., for summarizing the latest Titanic documentary.  I don't
sub*scribe to cable and was unable to see this program on the Cdn Discovery.  My
father showed me a newspaper article in advance of the broadcast touting the
rivets as the final cause of the sinking, so it is interesting to hear that this
has been downplayed.
     When reading the thoro book (thoro for its day), _The Titanic: the full
story of a tragedy_ (1986) by Michael Davie, the author relates an interview
with an Irishman whose family had worked on the construction of the ship, pp.
19-20.  The Irishman implied that there was some sloppy rivetting on the ship,
performed by those who wanted to protest lack of Home Rule.  "Was Mr. Sweeney
implying that political disaffection had led to sabotage, or at least that the
job had not been done as well as it might have been?  He retreated from any such
allegation; but it hung in the air."  The author then discounts the idea.

                                   Stephen D
                          mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:15:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Norwegian vs. Danish <WAS: Re: "Jack of Sjhlm and the Gan-Finn">

On Thu, 6 May 1999 sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA wrote:

> A friend, whose favourite author is Jonas Lie, assures me that he WAS a
> Norwegian.  The translator had to work with Danish because this was considered
> the classical language in Norway at the time.  Modern Norwegian was
> "invented"/codified in the late 19th C.
>
Hmmm, didn't know this.  Just in time for Ibsen, then.

Bob C.

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Robert L. Champ
rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy, meditate on these things
                                 Philippians 4:8

rchamp7927(at)aol.com       robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:12:12 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - May 7

             1800
                  Congress divides the Northwest Territory into two parts. The 
western part will becomes
                  the Indiana Territory and the eastern sections remains the 
Northwest Territory.
            1847
                  American Medical Association is formed in Philadelphia.
            1862
                  At the Battle of Eltham's Landing in Virginia, Confederate 
troops strike Union troops in
                  the Shenandoah Vally.
            1864
                  Battle of Wilderness, in Virginia, ends, with heavy losses to 
both sides.
            1877
                  Indian chief Sitting Bull enters Canada with a trail of 
Indians after the Battle of Little Big
                  Horn.
            1915
                  A German U-boat, the U-20, torpedoes the passenger ship 
Lusitiania, sinking her in 21
                  minutes with 1,978 people on board.

      Born on May 7
            1812
                  Robert Browning, English poet whose works included "The Piper 
of Hamelin" and "The
                  Ring and the Book."
            1833
                  Johannes Brahms, German romantic composer who wrote Violin 
Concerto in D Major
                  and Lullaby.
            1840
                  Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky, composer who wrote the 1812 Overture.
            1892
                  Josip Broz [Tito], leader of Yugoslavia during after World 
War II.
            1919
                  Eva (Evita) Per?n, first lady of Argentina who helped her 
husband, Juan, achieve office.

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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:14:03 -0700
From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com>
Subject: Chat: Children's site

Editec's Children's Collection:

                http://www.editec.net

Web's largest collection of antique children's books online. All material
is from the 19th and early 20th century, which means that the collection is
entirely copyright-available.

Just in case there are any Gassers interested.

Deborah

Deborah McMillion
deborah(at)gloaming.com
http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 12:36:43 +0300
From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop)
Subject: Re:  Music (Magic Violin Dept.)

For anyone who's interested in the magic violin strand I recommend highly
Vikram Seth's new novel, AN EQUAL MUSIC.   I recommend it anyway.  Toward
the end it's almost entirely in blank verse (not in appearance but in
scansion) -- and it may in fact be that way earlier in the book too.

I'm really looking forward to seeing reviews of this one.  Now I have
to go out and buy THE ART OF THE FUGUE.

Carroll Bishop (cbishop(at)interlog.com)

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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:23:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Off-Topic: Astaire's 100th

May 10th marks the hundredth birthday of one of the century's greatest
performers, Fred Astaire.

If you'd like to look at a nice site devoted to Fred try

http://www.wcinet.net/~arteest/FredMain.htm

Bob C.
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rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy, meditate on these things
                                 Philippians 4:8

rchamp7927(at)aol.com       robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 09:43:46 -0400
From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Chat: NY Time Book Reviews

http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/05/09/home/CONTENTS.HTMl

The NY Times Book Review for May 9, 1999, includes a review of a Lord Byron
bio and one of The Pity of War, a book about WW1 that we've discussed.

Gaslighters may also enjoy reading about Tracy Kidder's new book about
Northampton, Mass., my former home town.

If you can't access these reviews on-line, drop me an email at the link
below and I'll see what I can do.

Cheers,

Jim
mailto:jkearman(at)iname.com

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:16:14 +0300
From: cbishop(at)interlog.com (Carroll Bishop)
Subject: Call for Papers (fwd)

>Envelope-to: cbishop(at)INTERLOG.COM
>Date:         Mon, 10 May 1999 12:50:27 EDT
>Reply-To:     "Modern British and Irish Literature: 1895-1955"
><MODBRITS(at)LISTSERV.KENT.EDU>
>Sender:       "Modern British and Irish Literature: 1895-1955"
><MODBRITS(at)LISTSERV.KENT.EDU>
>From:         Multiple recipients of list MODBRITS <MODBREDS(at)KENTVM.KENT.EDU>
>Subject:      Call for Papers
>To:           MODBRITS(at)LISTSERV.KENT.EDU
>
>          *        *        *        *        *        *        *
>
>                              M O D B R I T S
>Department of English                               Center for Conrad Studies
>                           Kent State University
>
>Vol. 9                                                              No. 05.2c
>          *        *        *        *        *        *        *
>
>I believe some of the members of the ModBrit list might be interested in
>this call for papers. I'm looking forward to your responses. Thanks,
>
>Dejan Kuzmanovic
>
>
>Call for Paper:
>MODERNIST GOTHIC / GOTHIC MODERNISM
>a panel to be proposed for the Inaugural Conference of the Modernist
>Studies Association; October 7-10, 1999, Penn State University
>
>An early 19th-century writer offered the following suggestive recipe for
>transforming the Gothic romance of the late 18th century into a
>19th-century realistic novel:
>"Where you find: --
>        A castle . . . . . . . . . . . . . put  An house
>        A giant . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   A father
>        A knight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .A gentleman without whiskers
>        A midnight murder . . . . . . . . . . . A marriage
>        A lady who is the heroine . . Need not be changed being versatile."
>
>How is the Gothic genre further transformed as the 19th century realism is
>challenged by the fin-de-siecle and modernist innovations? What kinds of
>fears and anxieties (as well as concomitant desires) plague modernist
>literature and culture? How is the Gothic related to important modernist
>concerns, such as formal experimentation in literature and arts,
>transformations of gender and sexual identities and related political
>engagements, the crisis of liberal humanism, and others? I am looking for
>papers on any aspect of Gothic literature or art in the modernist period,
>on Gothic elements in ostensibly non-Gothic works of this period, or on
>modernist events (World War I, for example) seen as Gothic experiences.
>Interdisciplinary work is especially welcome.
>
>Please send 1-2 page proposals to Dejan Kuzmanovic at the address below by
>May 25, 1999. Direct any inquiries to the same address. E-mail submissions
>are welcome. Please note that this panel has not yet been approved by the
>conference program committee. That decision will be made by June 30,
>1999, after the complete panel is proposed to the committee.
>
>Dejan Kuzmanovic
>Department of English, MS-30
>Rice University
>6100 South Main St.
>Houston, TX 77005-1892
>
>dkuzman(at)rice.edu
>(713) 864-8840
>

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:10:21 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - May 10

            1840
                  Mormon leader Joseph Smith moves his band of followers to 
Illinois to escape the
                  hostilities they experienced in Missouri.
            1857
                  The Seepoys of India revolt against the British rule.
            1863
                  General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson succumbs to wounds 
received during the Battle of
                  Chancellorsville.
            1865
                  Union cavalry troops capture Confederate President Jefferson 
Davis near Irvinville,
                  Georgia.
            1869
                  Central Pacific and Union Pacific Rail Roads meet in 
Promontory, Utah.
            1872
                  Victoria Woodhull becomes first woman nominated for U.S. 
president.
            1917
                  Atlantic ships get destroyer escorts to fend off German 
attacks.

        Born on May 10
             1813
                  Montgomery Blair, lawyer in the Dred Scot case, deciding the 
limits of slavery.
            1838
                  John Wilkes Booth, actor and assassin of President Abraham 
Lincoln.
            1899
                  Fred Astaire, tap dancer and actor who stared in Easter 
Parade.
            1908
                  Carl Albert, speaker of the House of Representatives.

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:21:56 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Etext avail: more stories by Jonas Lie

From: Stephen Davies(at)MRC on 05/10/99 02:21 PM


To:   Gaslight-announce(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
cc:
Subject:  Etext avail: more stories by Jonas Lie

(LIEMENU.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos)
Jonas Lie's "THE FISHERMAN AND THE DRAUG" and "FINN BLOOD" (1893 ed.)

     These files continue Gaslight's reprinting of Jonas Lie's
     strange stories in English.

 To retrieve all the plain ASCII files send to:  ftpmail(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA

 with no subject heading and completely in lowercase:


 open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca
 cd /gaslight
 get fshdraug.sht
 get finnblod.sht

 or visit the Gaslight website at:

http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/liemenu.htm

                                   Stephen D
                            mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:22:03 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States

From: Stephen Davies(at)MRC on 05/10/99 02:22 PM


To:   Gaslight-announce(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
cc:
Subject:  Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States

(DESIREES.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos)
Kate Chopin's "Desiree's baby" (1893)

(IVRYGATE.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos)
Mary Raymond Shipman Andrews' "Through the Iron Gate" (1905)

(OWLCREEK.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos)
Ambrose Bierce's "An occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" (1891)

(DRMRGHST.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos)
John William DeForest's "The drummer ghost" (approx. 1870)


     Deborah McMillion Nering is again our guide on a tour of the Southern
     United States with the following four stories being discussed over a
     month.


May 17: Kate Chopin's "Desiree's Baby" (1893)

May 24: Mary Raymond Shipman Andrews' "Through the Iron Gate" (1905)

May 31: Ambrose Bierce's "An occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" (1891)

Jun 07: John William DeForest's "The drummer ghost" (approx. 1870)

 To retrieve all the plain ASCII files send to:  ftpmail(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA

 with no subject heading and completely in lowercase:


 open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca
 cd /gaslight
 get desirees.sht
 get ivrygate.sht
 get owlcreek.sht
 get drmrghst.sht

 or visit the Gaslight website at:

http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/desirees.htm
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/ivrygate.htm
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/owlcreek.htm
http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/drmrghst.htm


                                   Stephen D
                            mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:18:27 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Seeking H.G. Wells' _The chronic argonauts_

As promised, there will soon be a page on Gaslight devoted to several versions
of H.G. Wells' _The time machine_.  To make the page more complete, I am looking
for someone with a copy of _THE CHRONIC ARGONAUT_, also  by H. G. Wells,
originally from The Science Schools Journal (1888) published by the Royal
College of Science.

If anyone who has a copy of this incomplete serial or even a reprint, I would
appreciate hearing from them, so that I could ask five questions about the text.

                                   Stephen D
                          mailto:Sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:51:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States

On Mon, 10 May 1999 sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA wrote:

>
>      Deborah McMillion Nering is again our guide on a tour of the Southern
>      United States with the following four stories being discussed over a
>      month.
>
Deborah's last Southern tour was a complete delight; I look forward to our
discussion of her new crop of tales.

You ought to put together a little essay, Deborah: "Forgotten Writers of
Unforgettable Tales from the old South"--something along those lines.

Bob C. (getting ready to teach his very first on-line course come June 1.)

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Robert L. Champ
rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy, meditate on these things
                                 Philippians 4:8

rchamp7927(at)aol.com       robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:04:44 -0500
From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry1.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States

Better still, why not put out an anthology, Deborah?

Kiwi

>>> Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> 05/10/99 04:51PM >>>
On Mon, 10 May 1999 sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA wrote:

>
>      Deborah McMillion Nering is again our guide on a tour of the Southern
>      United States with the following four stories being discussed over a
>      month.
>
Deborah's last Southern tour was a complete delight; I look forward to our
discussion of her new crop of tales.

You ought to put together a little essay, Deborah: "Forgotten Writers of
Unforgettable Tales from the old South"--something along those lines.

Bob C. (getting ready to teach his very first on-line course come June 1.)

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Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy, meditate on these things
                                 Philippians 4:8

rchamp7927(at)aol.com       robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:08:04 -0700
From: "Jesse F. Knight" <jknight(at)internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States

> Better still, why not put out an anthology, Deborah?

> Kiwi


    I second the suggestion!

Jesse


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:21:36 -0700
From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com>
Subject: Re: Etext avail: visiting the Southern United States

>> Better still, why not put out an anthology, Deborah?
>> Kiwi

>    I second the suggestion!
>Jesse

Ahh, this is more tempting than you know, more tempting than you dream.  I
think we're building a definite Gaslight era on right on this list!

I was actually pretty pleased when Stephen said a lot of traffic was going
to the hard to find Chopin story "Her Letters".  I just picked up a copy of
Chopin's Louisiana short stories and there's some nice information about
Chopin to share.

Interestingly enough I came across a book of children's ghost stories and
they included a Gullah tale that John Bennett (of "Remember Service") had
collected in his DOCTOR TO THE DEAD tales, called "Dead Aaron".  I first
read this in the version of Gullah that Bennett managed to 'translate' and
nearly died laughing.  It is just wonderful but part of it is the Gullah
dialect that makes it so hysterical.  What a wonderful, expressive dialect
that is!  In this book it was translated so much it was still an
interesting tale but all the life in it had gone out.  If you don't have
access to this tale I'll have to include it along with the ride or wait
till next year.

Deborah (who thanks everyone for the enthusiasm--or is it just four solid
weeks of short stories to be had that we've all been missing!)


Deborah McMillion
deborah(at)gloaming.com
http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:27 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - May 11

            1812
                  British prime Minster Spencer Perceval is shot by a bankrupt 
banker in the lobby of the
                  House of Commons.
            1857
                  Indian mutineers against the British seize Delhi.
            1858
                  Minnesota is admitted as the thirty-second U.S. state.
            1860
                  Giuseppe Garibaldi lands at Marsala, Sicily.
            1862
                  Confederates scuttle the CSS Virginia off Norfolk, Virginia.
            1864
                  Confederate General J.E.B. Stuart is mortally wounded at 
Yellow Tavern.
            1866
                  Confederate President Jefferson Davis becomes a free man 
after spending two years in
                  prison for his role in the American Civil War.
            1889
                  Major Joseph Washington Wham takes charge of $28,000 in gold 
and silver to pay
                  troops at various points in the Arizona Territory. The money 
would eventually be stolen
                  in a train robbery.

      Born on May 11
            1888
                  Irving Berlin, composer of White Christmas
            1895
                  William Grant Still, considered the Dean of black African 
composers.
            1904
                  Salvador Dali, surrealist painter
            1912
                  Phil Silvers, comedian and actor who stared on T.V.*s 
*Sergeant Bilko*

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:37:30 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Dream portents: <WAS: Today in History - May 11>

>1812
> British prime Minster Spencer Perceval is shot by a bankrupt banker
>in the lobby of the House of Commons.

     I'm sure I've read about this tragedy as an example of dream portents.
Does anyone else remember the circumstances?
                                   Stephen D
                          mailto:sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:48:49 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - May 12

            1863
                  With a victory at the Battle of Raymond, Mississippi. Grant 
closes in on Vicksburg.
            1864
                  Union General Benjamin Butler attacks Drewry's Bluff on James 
River.
            1865
                  Last land battle of the Civil war occurs at Palmito Ranch, 
Texas.
            1881
                  Tunisia, in North Africa become a French protectorate.
            1885
                  In the Battle of Batoche, French Canadians rebel against the 
Canadian government.

      Born on May 12
            1816
                  Lord Grimthorpe, designer of *Big Ben,* the most recognized 
structure in London
                  [More specifically, "Big Ben" is the bell inside the Tower of 
the House of Parliament, after the
                  man who cast it.  There's an off-color joke about Ben's 
brother Richard being off that day.]
            1820
                  Florence Nightingale, Crimean War nurse known as *Lady with 
the Lamp*
                  [Hence this is Nurse's Week.  Another personal connection - 
one of my regular Library patrons
                  received this year's Nightingale Award from the Colorado 
Nurses' Association.]
            1915
                  Mary Kay Ash, chairman of Mary Kay Cosmetics

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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:49:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Today in History - May 12

On Wed, 12 May 1999, Jerry Carlson wrote:

>             1820
>                   Florence Nightingale, Crimean War nurse known as *Lady
with the Lamp*
>                   [Hence this is Nurse's Week.  Another personal
connection - one of my regular Library patrons
>                   received this year's Nightingale Award from the Colorado
Nurses' Association.]

Don't know if it's been mentioned here but in England not long ago the
nurses' association (I forget the group's proper name) voted to oust
Florence Nightingale as its symbol--that is to say, as the image of the
ideal nurse.

Nightingale, it appears, held to some very benighted notions, ones not
au courant enough for the new breed of nurses in Old Blighty--for example,
that nurses should unquestioningly follow doctors' orders in treating a
patient. The problem seems to be that Sister Nightingale just showed too
much deference to the male-dominated medical establishment of her time.

Can't say just who, if anyone at all, was chosen in her place.  It might
be stretching a bit, but I would like to suggest--Nurse Ratchett.

Bob C.

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rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

Whatever things are pure, whatever things are
lovely, whatever things are of good report, if
there is any virtue and if there is anything
praiseworthy, meditate on these things
                                 Philippians 4:8

rchamp7927(at)aol.com       robertchamp(at)netscape.net
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:48:40 -0600 (MDT)
From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Today in History - May 12

On Wed, 12 May 1999, Robert Champ wrote:
> Don't know if it's been mentioned here but in England not long ago the
> nurses' association (I forget the group's proper name) voted to oust
> Florence Nightingale as its symbol--that is to say, as the image of the
> ideal nurse.  >
> Nightingale, it appears, held to some very benighted notions, ones not
> au courant enough for the new breed of nurses in Old Blighty--for example,
> that nurses should unquestioningly follow doctors' orders in treating a
> patient.
> The problem seems to be that Sister Nightingale just showed too
> much deference to the male-dominated medical establishment of her time.

She did WHAT? I suggest a re-reading of the section "Florence
Nightingale" in Lytton Strachey's "Eminent Victorians". I think that there
must be rather more to this than we read above.
Peter Wood

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:03:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Rogers <jetan(at)ionet.net>
Subject: Re: Today in History - May 12

At 03:48 PM 5/12/99 -0600, Peter wrote:
.
>
>She did WHAT? I suggest a re-reading of the section "Florence
>Nightingale" in Lytton Strachey's "Eminent Victorians". I think that there
>must be rather more to this than we read above.
>Peter Wood
>
       A re-reading of the Strachey book might be in order for all of us. I
wonder if there is any way we coould manage to fit this on our schedule.
Arguments galore!

                                James

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