In this issue: Re: Alice RE: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: Pickford movie with immobile sheep <WAS: Re: Mowing lawns> Re: clean tombs Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re:Lady Duff-Gordon Gaslight period Egyptology Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: Gaslight period Egyptology Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: Gilbert Murray novel Re: Gaslight period Egyptology Re: Gaslight period Egyptology Re: Gaslight period Egyptology RE: Gaslight period Egyptology Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: RE: er, Egyptian Povich? Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Obtaining Archived Stories (Was RE: er, Egyptian Povich?) RE: Obtaining Archived Stories (Was RE: er, Egyptian Povich?) Re: Alice Re: Obtaining Archived Stories (Was RE: er, Egyptian Povich?) -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:31:16 -0500 From: clementk(at)alink.com (Clement, Kevin) Subject: Re: Alice Robert Champ wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone saw the new version of _Alice in Wonderland_ > the other night and, if so, what your impression of it was. > > Bob C. Once again nice effects from Henson Productions. However this seemed too short, should've been at least two nights. (though they'd probably cut it horribly on the videotape general release like they did with Merlin) Reminded me of Labyrinth in general atmosphere and about as good, though Labyrinth has the advantage of not being based on a book, David Bowie as the villain, and some excellent Goblin designs. Both films have a patchwork storyline. I admit I've not read the originals (ducking now!) though I've got a Dover copy that I'm starting to read now. Don't want to repeat good observations made by others already. "Bored now" - - alt.Willow
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:47:05 -0700 (MST) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: RE: er, Egyptian Povich? It's 9.45; I turned off the sound and watched the closed captions until I counted the first dozen howlers, after which the cat and I came down to check my e-mail. I haven't checked <sci.archaeology> n/g yet, but it's probably hot enough to burn the screen. Good-night all, from Echo (the cat) and Peter Wood
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:31:41 +1100
From: Craig Walker <genre(at)tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: Pickford movie with immobile sheep <WAS: Re: Mowing lawns>
Good Evening,
I thought I should contribute somethingo this forum and so.....
sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA wrote:
<snip>
> During a Mary Pickford movie shoot, a scene was required where Mary sat in a
> barn and a pastoral scene was visible outside the doors. Unfortunately, the
> movie crew could not get the sheep to stay put in the background; they kept
> wandering out of shot. The crew could not tether the sheep without being
> obvious.
>
> The solution seems a beautiful example of Hollywood excess. The crew rebuilt
> the barn on high stilts, created little islands of grass up on poles outside
the
> barn doors and placed the sheep on them, via a ladder. The sheep stayed put,
> well within frame, for the duration of the shooting.
The ABACUS printing of the above book (which I have in my library) has 2
references
to the above situation:
Page 258, in the area devoted to renowned cameraman- Charles Rosher, has 2
photos of
the situation. The first is the shot from inside the barn and the second is the
reverse shot showing the 'stilted' mounds of grass. The caption to the first
photo
reads:
"Sparrows (1926) This scene was originally taken on location, but the sheep kept
wandering away. Charles Rosher tried again on the back lot and this time the
sheep
stayed put. Art Director; Harry Oliver."
The caption to the second (showing the stilts): "The reverse angle shows why."
On page 262:
"Rosher went to extraordinary lengths to ensure perfection; in Sparrows, a dream
sequence depicted Mary Pickford alseep in a barn. One wall of the barn dissolved
away to show a flock of sheep being tended by a Christ figure. The dissolve
itself
was difficult enough, but the problem was increased by the flock of sheep.
Whenever
the scene was about to be shot, the sheep wandered away. Rosher had the
carpenters
build high platforms which were camouflaged with grass and foliage, and the
sheep
placed on top. Unwilling to break their nexks by jumping off the edge, the sheep
stayed put."
Even though it's alittle behind, I hope it elucidates.
Cheers
Craig
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 06:31:09 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: clean tombs Hari Zawass is the head of the Egyptian Antiquities service (I think that's what it's still called); in any case, he's the boss of the entire archeaological pyramid in Egypt. He, at least, belonged there, but he must have been doing the dramatic thing to help along the cause of fundraising to save the antiquities. Marta Linda Anderson wrote: > > Gee, didn't you all think them undiscovered Egyptian tombs were awfully > clean and not dusty or filled up with rubble? or was that just my eastern > USA mind that had trouble believing in "ancient undisturbed remains"? > > Who hired the "Egyptian doctor beloved of Suzy"? gee, they had to take off > their hats and coats sometimes. Them tombs are well known to be tv > magnets- gotta look thy best. sigh. I did get some new laugh lines during > the two hours- that has to be worth the price of cable tv! > > Dear Craig: please, watch and give us your input. Mine is of one mind- > skeptical and disbelieving. As I said before, the excavation under and > near the Sphinx is the only new (to me) expedition. that is something I'd > like to see more of- but not on TV!!!! > > Linda Anderson
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 06:37:28 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Yes, I've watched that movie many times, and it was much better than the dreck stirred up by Maury. I've always thought it had a dark, spooky feel to it. Marta Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > >If the woman reporter, Suzy Colber, says "wow" one more time when > >presented >with or stepping on bones, I'm going to Egypt and bury her > >empty Martian head >in the sand myself. > > I tend to skirt these because the horrible Egyptology and historicity makes > me crazy but I had to laugh over this comment. > > Martians? > > Anyone ever see a great old 60's (?) era movie called FIVE MILLION YEARS TO > EARTH? The one where they discover a Martian spaceship buried underground > in England in a place called "Hobs End"? They look like giant grasshoppers > but it had some interesting things to say about us and Martians. Probably > better than this theory above. Eck. > > Deborah > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 06:41:47 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Does anyone know if the Lady Duff-Gordon publications of her trip and life in Egypt in the 1800's are available in e-text? I'd always wanted to read them. Marta Craig Walker wrote: > > Good Afternoon, > > I will look forward to seeing this Mythstorical interlude this evening > (about 4.5 hours from now) on our Channel 9 (TCN network). They've been > hyping it for a week or so. > > Regarding the era-issues though. What e-texts are available (readable > through FTP retrieval) regarding the aracheological exploits of the > 1890's. Mind you these can be fiction , or non. Just that this was *the* > era of Dilletant-Archaeologists, where money gave the right to plunder > antiquities and curses of tombs and such abounded. > > Thanks > > Craig Walker > > +----------------------------------------+ > Craig Walker > (h) +612 9550-0815 (w) +612 9228-6698 > (m) +614 1922-0013 > (h) genre(at)tig.com.au > (w) cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au > ICQ (h) 1053193 > +---------------------------------------+
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:10:22 -0200 From: beth davis <bcdavis(at)olg.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? - --------------2FEF2F7F7A7E95B76754504F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only book I could locate by Lady Duff-Gordon is Letters from the Cape, on Project Gutenberg. Would this be the one you're looking for? Hope that helps! Beth Marta Dawes wrote: > Does anyone know if the Lady Duff-Gordon publications of her trip and > life in Egypt in the 1800's are available in e-text? I'd always wanted > to read them. > > Marta > > Craig Walker wrote: > > > > Good Afternoon, > > > > I will look forward to seeing this Mythstorical interlude this evening > > (about 4.5 hours from now) on our Channel 9 (TCN network). They've been > > hyping it for a week or so. > > > > Regarding the era-issues though. What e-texts are available (readable > > through FTP retrieval) regarding the aracheological exploits of the > > 1890's. Mind you these can be fiction , or non. Just that this was *the* > > era of Dilletant-Archaeologists, where money gave the right to plunder > > antiquities and curses of tombs and such abounded. > > > > Thanks > > > > Craig Walker > > > > +----------------------------------------+ > > Craig Walker > > (h) +612 9550-0815 (w) +612 9228-6698 > > (m) +614 1922-0013 > > (h) genre(at)tig.com.au > > (w) cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au > > ICQ (h) 1053193 > > +---------------------------------------+ - --------------2FEF2F7F7A7E95B76754504F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> The only book I could locate by Lady Duff-Gordon is <U>Letters from the Cape</U>, on Project Gutenberg. Would this be the one you're looking for? <BR>Hope that helps! <BR>Beth <P>Marta Dawes wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Does anyone know if the Lady Duff-Gordon publications of her trip and <BR>life in Egypt in the 1800's are available in e-text? I'd always wanted <BR>to read them. <P>Marta <P>Craig Walker wrote: <BR>> <BR>> Good Afternoon, <BR>> <BR>> I will look forward to seeing this Mythstorical interlude this evening <BR>> (about 4.5 hours from now) on our Channel 9 (TCN network). They've been <BR>> hyping it for a week or so. <BR>> <BR>> Regarding the era-issues though. What e-texts are available (readable <BR>> through FTP retrieval) regarding the aracheological exploits of the <BR>> 1890's. Mind you these can be fiction , or non. Just that this was *the* <BR>> era of Dilletant-Archaeologists, where money gave the right to plunder <BR>> antiquities and curses of tombs and such abounded. <BR>> <BR>> Thanks <BR>> <BR>> Craig Walker <BR>> <BR>> +----------------------------------------+ <BR>> &nb sp; Craig Walker <BR>> (h) +612 9550-0815 (w) +612 9228-6698 <BR>> (m) +614 1922-0013 <BR>> (h) genre(at)tig.com.au <BR>> (w) cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au <BR>> ICQ (h) 1053193 <BR>> +---------------------------------------+</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> - --------------2FEF2F7F7A7E95B76754504F--
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:55:26 -0500 From: lpv1(at)is2.nyu.edu Subject: Re:Lady Duff-Gordon Katherine Frank wrote a biography of Lucie Duff-Gordon entitled A Passage to Egypt: the Life of Lucie Duff Gordon Published by Hughton Miffin,Boston 1994 (originally published in London, Hanish Hamilton 1994) Lucie Paula At 08:10 AM 3/3/99 -0200, you wrote: > > The only book I could locate by Lady Duff-Gordon is Letters from the Cape, on > Project Gutenberg. Would this be the one you're looking for? > Hope that helps! > Beth > > Marta Dawes wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if the Lady Duff-Gordon publications of her trip and >> life in Egypt in the 1800's are available in e-text? I'd always wanted >> to read them. >> >> Marta >> >> C >
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:10:20 -0600 From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry_1.wustl.edu> Subject: Gaslight period Egyptology If you want to read books about Egypt, its exploration and excavation, you really can't do better than those by Flinders Petrie, aka Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie. He lived a long and colorful life as an archaeologist, and many of his books were written in our period. Here's an example of the color (actually from a book by Barbara Mertz, who as Elisabeth Peters based a character on Flinders Petrie: before his marriage, Petrie liked to live in a tomb when excavating in the Valley of the Kings and similar venues. He would find a few nice empty tombs (cool in the day, sheltered at night) and set up there. He had a tendency to graze through the expedition's food rations, opening a selection of tins and eating what he liked, then leaving the rest for his underlings. When it got close to the end of a food shipment, the underlings had to eat what was left. Two of his assistants fell in love after nursing each other through a bout of food poisoning brought on by this bad habit... Anyway, some of Petrie's books are technical, but others are very accessible. I recommend: Petrie, W. M. Flinders (William Matthew Flinders), Sir, 1853-1942. Seventy years in archaeology, London, S. Low, Marston & Co., Ltd., 1931. There are newer editions, of course. Though it was published AFTER our period, most of the book is in period, and very enjoyable to read. Petrie often thinks better of Egyptians than of his European colleagues. His strictures on Mariette are something else!! Petrie is the "father of scientific archaeology", and was one of the first to value potsherds, which are so vital to our knowledge of the past. Another period author is, of course, Amelia B. Edwards, whose fiction the list has read. I strongly recommend A Thousand Miles up the Nile, originally published in 1888. That's a GREAT read, and Amelia is Something Else!! Kiwi Carlisle (cat litter attendant at the Great Temple in Bubastis in a past life ;-), but not a Martian) carlislc(at)psychiatry.wustl.edu
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 14:32:37 +0000 From: Liza Wright <EWright(at)ealaghol.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? > >Anyone ever see a great old 60's (?) era movie called FIVE MILLION YEARS TO >EARTH? The one where they discover a Martian spaceship buried underground >in England in a place called "Hobs End"? They look like giant grasshoppers >but it had some interesting things to say about us and Martians. Probably >better than this theory above. Eck. Was this the one called "Quatermass and the Pit" in the UK? Certainly sounds like it. One of my favourites... Liza. - --------------------------------------------------------- ewright(at)ealaghol.demon.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:04:29 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: Gaslight period Egyptology >If you want to read books about Egypt, its exploration and excavation, you >>really can't do better than those by Flinders And as I mentioned to someone off list, the best mummy story of all (just out of period but since they used gas lamps in Egypt maybe longer?) is that of Howard Carter's opening the tomb of Tutankhamun. Some of the best, edge of your seat reporting, especially the tale of the sarcophagus lid dangling over the coffin for a summer interim while battles raged over who had the right to finish the excavation. Not to mention the true story of the 'curse'. Deborah (there's a wonderful exhibit of Egyptian antiquities right now here at the Phoenix Art Museum until March 28 if you're in the area. Can't be beat: the giant statue of Sekhmet. This is who my cat worships instead of Bastet) Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:05:08 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? >> >>Anyone ever see a great old 60's (?) era movie called FIVE MILLION YEARS TO >>EARTH? The one where they discover a Martian spaceship buried underground >>in England in a place called "Hobs End"? They look like giant grasshoppers >>but it had some interesting things to say about us and Martians. Probably >>better than this theory above. Eck. > >Was this the one called "Quatermass and the Pit" in the UK? Certainly >sounds like it. One of my favourites... Has to be--it was Professor Quartermass and, wait--there was a pit! Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 10:26:24 -0600
From: Chris Carlisle <CarlislC(at)psychiatry_1.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: Gilbert Murray novel
Wasn't Murray the one who insisted on calling Jocasta "Epicasta"?
Very disconcerting to read that translation.
Bob, OCLC brings up several records for the Gobi book. The
first reads:
ACCESSION:
40101123
AUTHOR:
Murray, Gilbert, 1866-1957.
TITLE:
Gobi or Shamo : a story of three songs
EDITION:
3d ed.
PLACE:
London ; New York :
PUBLISHER:
Longmans, Green,
YEAR:
1890
PUB TYPE:
Book
FORMAT:
376 p. ; 20 cm.
Looks as if it did make it into print, and made it into more than
one printing.
Kiwi
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:46:36 -0700 (MST) From: John Woolley <jwoolley(at)dna420.mcit.com> Subject: Re: Gaslight period Egyptology Kiwi writes: > Another period author is, of course, Amelia B. Edwards, whose fiction the list has read. I strongly recommend A Thousand Miles up the Nile, originally published in 1888. That's a GREAT read, > and Amelia is Something Else!! I second the Edwards recommendation. There are some excerpts from her _Pharaohs, Fellahs, and Explorers_ on line at "http://www.websect.com/nilemuse/edwards/index.html". - -- Fr. John
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:26:57 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Gaslight period Egyptology Thomas Hoving's account of the excavation is juicier. I had a great time reading that book. Marta Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > >If you want to read books about Egypt, its exploration and excavation, you > >>really can't do better than those by Flinders > > And as I mentioned to someone off list, the best mummy story of all (just > out of period but since they used gas lamps in Egypt maybe longer?) is that > of Howard Carter's opening the tomb of Tutankhamun. Some of the best, edge > of your seat reporting, especially the tale of the sarcophagus lid dangling > over the coffin for a summer interim while battles raged over who had the > right to finish the excavation. Not to mention the true story of the > 'curse'. > > Deborah > (there's a wonderful exhibit of Egyptian antiquities right now here at the > Phoenix Art Museum until March 28 if you're in the area. Can't be beat: > the giant statue of Sekhmet. This is who my cat worships instead of Bastet) > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:27:49 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Gaslight period Egyptology I wonder if that is the same exhibit that's coming to Omaha's Joslyn Museum on March 29? Marta Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > >If you want to read books about Egypt, its exploration and excavation, you > >>really can't do better than those by Flinders > > And as I mentioned to someone off list, the best mummy story of all (just > out of period but since they used gas lamps in Egypt maybe longer?) is that > of Howard Carter's opening the tomb of Tutankhamun. Some of the best, edge > of your seat reporting, especially the tale of the sarcophagus lid dangling > over the coffin for a summer interim while battles raged over who had the > right to finish the excavation. Not to mention the true story of the > 'curse'. > > Deborah > (there's a wonderful exhibit of Egyptian antiquities right now here at the > Phoenix Art Museum until March 28 if you're in the area. Can't be beat: > the giant statue of Sekhmet. This is who my cat worships instead of Bastet) > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:55:19 +1100
From: Craig Walker <cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au>
Subject: RE: Gaslight period Egyptology
Good Morning,
I laughed, I cried, I had to watch to the bloody end. That was no
archaeological expedition, that was a tabloid farce. Although the
speculative bits had some interesting pseudo-science embedded in them.
<sigh> Well, it was only worth about 25 moins of my time. Stepping on
bones, indeed.
As far as the opening of Tutankamen's tomb is concerned, I would be
interested in rewading those 2 accounts. Can someone point me to the
e-texts (available through FTP) or perhaps other accounts of expeditions
to:
1. The Tell-el-Amarna site of the ancient city Akhetaton which was built
during the reign of Amenhotep IV, better known as Akhenaton, sometime
between 1350 and 1334 BC. (This city allegedly served as the Egyptian
capital until Akhenaton's death. Akhenaton had declared that Aton, the
sun god, was the one true and god and no others were to be worshiped, as
we have discussed here already.)
2. Three villages on the banks of the Nile are in this area; el-Till,
el-Haggi Quandril and el-Armariah.
3. The plain of el Amarna is roughly semi-circular space approximately
seven miles long and four miles across at its deepest. The Nile is the
border along the flat side of the semi circle with the cliffs forming
the other boundaries.
Thanks for any FTP assists <sigh> I have no Web-access at work at this
time.
Cheers
Craig Walker
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:44:23 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Actually, I think its called "1000 Miles up the Nile", or something similar. I'm going to check out your suggestion, though, to see what its like. Thank you! Marta beth davis wrote: > > The only book I could locate by Lady Duff-Gordon is Letters from the > Cape, on Project Gutenberg. Would this be the one you're looking for? > > Hope that helps! > Beth > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the Lady Duff-Gordon publications of her trip > > and > > life in Egypt in the 1800's are available in e-text? I'd always > > wanted > > to read them. > > > > Marta > > > > Craig Walker wrote: > > > > > > Good Afternoon, > > > > > > I will look forward to seeing this Mythstorical interlude this > > evening > > > (about 4.5 hours from now) on our Channel 9 (TCN network). They've > > been > > > hyping it for a week or so. > > > > > > Regarding the era-issues though. What e-texts are available > > (readable > > > through FTP retrieval) regarding the aracheological exploits of > > the > > > 1890's. Mind you these can be fiction , or non. Just that this was > > *the* > > > era of Dilletant-Archaeologists, where money gave the right to > > plunder > > > antiquities and curses of tombs and such abounded. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Craig Walker > > > > > > +----------------------------------------+ > > > Craig Walker > > > (h) +612 9550-0815 (w) +612 9228-6698 > > > (m) +614 1922-0013 > > > (h) genre(at)tig.com.au > > > (w) cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au > > > ICQ (h) 1053193 > > > +---------------------------------------+ > >
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:53:24 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? >Actually, I think its called "1000 Miles up the Nile", or something >similar. That's the one by Amelia B. Edwards. Very good. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:17:47 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? Yes, you're right. I've had a mind-numbing day and didn't stop to think before I wrote that. I'll look up the Lady Duff-Gordon book and report back, if I can jump-start my brain. Marta Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > > >Actually, I think its called "1000 Miles up the Nile", or something > >similar. > > That's the one by Amelia B. Edwards. Very good. > > Deborah > > Deborah McMillion > deborah(at)gloaming.com > http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:29:08 -0800 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Re: RE: er, Egyptian Povich? Craig W. wrote: <<Regarding the era-issues though. What e-texts are available (readable through FTP retrieval) regarding the aracheological exploits of the 1890's. Mind you these can be fiction , or non. Just that this was *the* era of Dilletant-Archaeologists, where money gave the right to plunder antiquities and curses of tombs and such abounded.>> Craig, For a bit of mummy fiction in the Gaslight era, try H. Rider Haggard's "Smith and the Pharaohs" or Doyle's two stories "Lot no 249" and "Ring of Thoth." This group appears on Gaslight, and I think the ftp filenames are: lotno249.sht rngthoth.sht smithphh.sht Another fun read is Poe's "Some words with a Mummy" (1850), which I do not believe is on Gaslight. What other Egyptian and/or archeology stories fit within the Gaslight era? best regards, Patricia
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 20:25:58 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: er, Egyptian Povich? How do you get to these texts on Gaslight? Marta Patricia Teter wrote: > > Craig W. wrote: <<Regarding the era-issues though. What e-texts > are available (readable through FTP retrieval) regarding the aracheological > exploits of the 1890's. Mind you these can be fiction , or non. Just that > this was *the* era of Dilletant-Archaeologists, where money gave the > right to plunder antiquities and curses of tombs and such abounded.>> > > Craig, > > For a bit of mummy fiction in the Gaslight era, try H. Rider > Haggard's "Smith and the Pharaohs" or Doyle's two stories > "Lot no 249" and "Ring of Thoth." This group appears on > Gaslight, and I think the ftp filenames are: > > lotno249.sht > rngthoth.sht > smithphh.sht > > Another fun read is Poe's "Some words with a Mummy" > (1850), which I do not believe is on Gaslight. > > What other Egyptian and/or archeology stories fit within > the Gaslight era? > > best regards, > Patricia
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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:41:11 -0500 From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)mindspring.com> Subject: Obtaining Archived Stories (Was RE: er, Egyptian Povich?) Marta wrote: > > > How do you get to these texts on Gaslight? > > Patricia Teter wrote: > > > > For a bit of mummy fiction in the Gaslight era, try H. Rider > > Haggard's "Smith and the Pharaohs" or Doyle's two stories > > "Lot no 249" and "Ring of Thoth." This group appears on > > Gaslight, and I think the ftp filenames are: > > > > lotno249.sht > > rngthoth.sht > > smithphh.sht To get these files from the website, set your browser to http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/smithphh.htm or substitute http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/rngthoth.htm, http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/lotno249.htm etc. I've never used the procedure for obtaining them via FTP. I hope interested readers can obtain them from the website. I've lost my copy of the instructions for using FTP. I believe these instructions appear in each posting from Stephen that announces newly mounted text or HTML files. Cheers, Jim
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:48:35 +1100
From: Craig Walker <cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au>
Subject: RE: Obtaining Archived Stories (Was RE: er, Egyptian Povich?)
Hi Marta,
1. Addrees an email to:
ftpmail(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
2. Then blank the subject line
3. The put into the body of the text (deleting ALL other text)
open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca
cd /gaslight
get <insert the name of the file you want here>
get <insert the name of the file you want here>
4. Wait for the reply
Hope that helps
Cheers
Craig
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(h) +612 9550-0815 (w) +612 9228-6698
(m) +614 1922-0013
(h) genre(at)tig.com.au
(w) cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au
ICQ (h) 1053193
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 03:51:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jack Kolb <KOLB(at)UCLA.EDU> Subject: Re: Alice >>However, I consider the best "Alice" adaptation yet done to be "Dreamchild", directed by Dennis Potter. > Jan Svankmajer's is my favorite. It's the closest I've seen to actually being JUST Alice, no Looking Glass and with the exception of the Cheshire Cat all of the scenes are there. Alice is very spirited, curious, and the madness is wonderful. - -------------- I've heard (J.S.'s) is wonderful: I'm about to order it. But I'd put in a special word for Dreamchild, which of course isn't an Alice version, but rather a reading of Alice Meynell's relationship to Dodgson, and all that follows. What's lovely is the notion that Dodgson, an older academic man, could have loved Alice, a nearly pubescent flirtatious girl, in an entirely non-sexual way. No one would believe it today. Sigh. Jack Kolb Dept. of English, UCLA kolb(at)ucla.edu
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 05:55:28 -0600 From: Marta Dawes <smdawes(at)home.com> Subject: Re: Obtaining Archived Stories (Was RE: er, Egyptian Povich?) Thank you for the explanation. Like others on the list, there are times I don't get the emails, and I think this was one of the them that I missed, or I might even have deleted it before I read it. Marta Craig Walker wrote: > > Hi Marta, > > 1. Addrees an email to: > > ftpmail(at)mtroyal.ab.ca > > 2. Then blank the subject line > > 3. The put into the body of the text (deleting ALL other text) > > open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca > cd /gaslight > get <insert the name of the file you want here> > get <insert the name of the file you want here> > > 4. Wait for the reply > > Hope that helps > > Cheers > > Craig > > +----------------------------------------+ > Craig Walker > (h) +612 9550-0815 (w) +612 9228-6698 > (m) +614 1922-0013 > (h) genre(at)tig.com.au > (w) cwalker(at)lto.nsw.gov.au > ICQ (h) 1053193 > +---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ End of Gaslight Digest V1 #50 *****************************