Gaslight digest of discussion for 98-oct-26



Gaslight Digest        Monday, October 26 1998        Volume 01 : Number 011



In this issue:

   Re:  The Case of Mr. Lucraft
   Re:  The Case of Mr. Lucraft
   Re:  The Case of Mr. Lucraft
   Apologies
   Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery
   Chat: Re: Apologies
   Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery
   Question re:Doyle stories
   Today in History - Oct. 23
   George Patton, Poet?
   Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery
   FWD: A Blackwood list
   scribbles
   Re: Question re:Doyle stories
   Re: Question re:Doyle stories
   Re: Question re:Doyle stories
   more about Charles Augustus Howell ...
   Re: Milverton/Howell
   RE: more about Charles Augustus Howell ...
   Re: Milverton/Howell
   Lincoln's doctors
   Re:  Lincoln's doctors
   Re:  Re:  Lincoln's doctors
   question from another list
   Alien Voices
   Re: Alien Voices
   New Story
   Re: Victorian Crime Conference
   Re: Old movie
   Etext avail: Charles E. Van Loan's "Tales of the Midnight Club"
   Re: Hallowe'en Symbol
   Today in History - Oct. 26
   Re: Hallowe'en Symbol
   Chat: Hallowe'en Symbol
   Re: Hallowe'en Symbol

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kujen(at)aol.com
Subject: Re:  The Case of Mr. Lucraft



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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:57:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kujen(at)aol.com
Subject: Re:  The Case of Mr. Lucraft



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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:56:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kujen(at)aol.com
Subject: Re:  The Case of Mr. Lucraft



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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:03:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kujen(at)aol.com
Subject: Apologies

Apologies to all the Gassers.  I don't know what happened.

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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:15:00 -0500
From: Brian McMillan <brianbks(at)netins.net>
Subject: Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery

Kevin J. Clement wrote:

> If you're scared/interested by HPL's ghouls, try to find any of Clark
> Ashton Smith's ghoul stories. Necronomicon Press has recently put out
> nice editions of his Zothique & Hyperborea stories for a good price.
> ($12 or so is far less than trying to find an old Arkham House book or a
> Weird Tales) Brian McNaughton's Throne of Bones is another collection of
> similar stories.

  Thanks Kevin. I'll keep an eye open for McNaughton's work, which I hadn't
heard of. Zothique & Hyperborea were also, of course, printed in paperback
as part of the excellent Ballantine Adult Fantasy series; I've sold both
copies of Zothique that I've found (and recommend) & haven't ever found
Hyperborea.

Brian McMillan
brianbks(at)netins.net

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:27:48 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Chat: Re: Apologies

I just figured you didn't have a lot to say about the story.  &8-{)
(smiling gently in memory of my own past glitches)

Jerry
gmc(at)libra.pvh.org

>>> <Kujen(at)aol.com> 10/22 5:03 PM >>>
Apologies to all the Gassers.  I don't know what happened.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:38:36 -0700
From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com>
Subject: Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery

> & haven't ever found Hyperborea.

Had these ages ago.  All I remember of Hyperborea was creeping snow and
creeping snow demons.  Chaosium is also bringing out a lot of these old
stories (and more) now as well.

Deborah


Deborah McMillion
deborah(at)gloaming.com
http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:20:25 -0700
From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu>
Subject: Question re:Doyle stories

Questions regarding Doyle's non-Holmes stories:

I know Gaslight has several stories by Doyle, Ring of Troth,
The Lost Special, The Horror of the Heights, and Lot No.
249 available on the Gaslight website.  Are there any Doyle
stories residing on Gaslight which are not yet available on the
website?

Is anyone aware of a complete list of Doyle's non-Holmes short
stories?

Many thanks,
Patricia

Patricia A. Teter
PTeter(at)Getty.edu

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:44:48 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Oct. 23

             1861
                   President Abraham Lincoln suspends the writ of habeas corpus 
in Washington, D.C.
                   for all military-related cases.
            1918
                   President Wilson feels satisfied that the Germans are 
accepting his armistice terms and
                   agrees to transmit their request for an armistice to the 
Allies. The Germans have agreed
                   to suspend submarine warfare, cease inhumane practices such 
as the use of poison gas,
                   and withdraw troops back into Germany.

      Born on October 23
            1869
                   John Heisman, American college football coach from 1892 to 
1927 who had a trophy
                   for best college player named after him

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:22:49 -0400
From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)javanet.com>
Subject: George Patton, Poet?

The roar of the battle languished
The hate from the guns grew still,
While the moon rose up from a smoke cloud
And looked at the dead on the hill.
George S. Patton, Jr. - "The Moon and the Dead"

I found this bit of verse at http://members.aol.com/atominfo/death.htm

I assume it dates from WW1. Is Patton's verse collected anywhere?

Cheers,

Jim

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James E. Kearman
mailto:jkearman(at)iname.com

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:16:42 -0400
From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com>
Subject: Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery

At 08:38 AM 10/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> & haven't ever found Hyperborea.
>
>Had these ages ago.  All I remember of Hyperborea was creeping snow and
>creeping snow demons.  Chaosium is also bringing out a lot of these old
>stories (and more) now as well.
>
>Deborah
>
>
>Deborah McMillion
>deborah(at)gloaming.com
>http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

In case you're interested in Chaosium's upcoming fiction: (I've found a
good way to get cheap versions of hard to find stories plus I can get them
through my local comic shop as soon as they're released with no shipping
worries)

http://www.chaosium.com/wizards-attic/coming-soon.shtml

Looks like they'll be coming out with an edition of Chamber's Weird Fiction
called The Yellow Sign & Other Tales in January, 1999 with stories from The
King in Yellow, The Maker of Moons, The Mystery of Choice, The Tree of
Heaven, and Police

They're also planning a two book Arthur Machen collection as well.

from http://www.chaosium.com/cthulhu/fiction/6023.shtml

Kevin Clement
clementk(at)alink.com

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:59:41 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: FWD: A Blackwood list

Neither Sue nor I can post this message to the Gaslight list without it
bouncing back from the new, censorious mail server.  I shall attempt to
trick it by disguising the word "sub scribe".
                                  Stephen

Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:48:15 +0100
From: "Susan O'Brien" <sue(at)sjob.demon.co.uk>
Subject: A Blackwood list


I have just started a mailing list to talk about the works and life of
Algernon Blackwood.

To subscribble to the list, go to

   http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Blackwood

I look forward to hearing from you !

- --
Sue O'Brien

sue(at)sjob.demon.co.uk

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:17:06 -0400
From: Linda Anderson <lpa1(at)ptdprolog.net>
Subject: scribbles

Stephen:

I think that you and Sue had more tribbles with her address than the
scribbles:

sue(at)sjob.demon.co.uk


Them "demon"'s will get ya if ya don't look out!


Linda Anderson

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:15:58 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: Question re:Doyle stories

To answer Patricia T.:

     in addition to "Ring of Thoth", "The Lost Special", "The Horror of the
Heights", and "Lot No. 249", Gaslight has offered plain ASCII versions of
several Gerard stories, and "A foreign office romance" (perhaps I have not
announced this one, nor linked it on the website, but it is Patricia's own
etext), "The leather funnel", and "The bloodstone tragedy" (which was
temporarily loaned to Gaslight by the Rodens).
     There is an incomplete novel, _A desert drama: the tragedy of the
Korosko_, and some non-fiction: "My first book" and "Through the magic
door".
     Most of these items can be added to the web ahead of other projects,
if reader interest decrees it.
                                  Stephen

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:14:30 -0500
From: smdawes(at)home.com
Subject: Re: Question re:Doyle stories

I believe I've got a book of Doyle's non-Holmes short stories; I'll look
for it and post a list.

Marta

Patricia Teter wrote:
>
> Questions regarding Doyle's non-Holmes stories:
>
> I know Gaslight has several stories by Doyle, Ring of Troth,
> The Lost Special, The Horror of the Heights, and Lot No.
> 249 available on the Gaslight website.  Are there any Doyle
> stories residing on Gaslight which are not yet available on the
> website?
>
> Is anyone aware of a complete list of Doyle's non-Holmes short
> stories?
>
> Many thanks,
> Patricia
>
> Patricia A. Teter
> PTeter(at)Getty.edu

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:05:54 -0700
From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu>
Subject: Re: Question re:Doyle stories

Thanks to Stephen for reminding Patricia T. that she
is losing her mind.  Foreign Office Romance....oh, yea...
I remember that!  Guess the Brigadier Gerard stories
slipped my mind as well.....

The Bloodstone Tragedy is no longer available?  Does
anyone know where this story was first printed?  or reprinted?

Someday it would be interesting to discuss Korosko,
along with a history lesson, of course.  James R., this
story would fit into your Imperialism story group; have
you read it?  The story goes well alongside a nice gin and
tonic with a twist of lime.

salute,
Patricia

Patricia A. Teter
PTeter(at)Getty.edu

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:20:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Peter E. Blau" <pblau(at)dgs.dgsys.com>
Subject: more about Charles Augustus Howell ...

With regard to the discussion of Charles Augustus Howell, and for the
benefit of newcomers, I'm happy to repeat an old posting [#9776, from
1996]:

If you would like to know more about this infamous blackmailer (who surely
served as inspiration for the character of Charles Augustus Milverton, who
was described as "the worst man in London" in the Sherlock Holmes story), I
am happy to recommend BELLADONNA: A LEWIS CARROLL NIGHTMARE, by Donald
Thomas (London: Macmillan, 1983), reprinted as MAD HATTER SUMMER (New York:
Viking, 1983).  The novel is based on fact, and delightful.

And Conan Doyle would have known about Howell, who was the subject of an
article by "Sigma" [Julian Osgood Field] in Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine,
Sept. 1903, pp. 301-318 ("Charles Augustus Milverton" was published in The
Strand Magazine in Apr. 1904).  More recently, there are: PRE-RAPHAELITE
TWILIGHT: THE STORY OF CHARLES AUGUSTUS HOWELL, by Helen Rossetti Angeli
(London: Richards Press, 1954), with a facsimile edition (St. Clair Shores:
Scholarly Press, 1971); and THE OWL AND THE ROSSETTIS, edited by C. L. Cline
(University Park: Pennsylvania State University Press, 1978).  Plus THE
FOULEST SOUL THAT LIVED, an uncompleted manuscript by Violet Hunt, held in
the Cornell Library.

Violet Hunt's title is from a poem by Algernon Charles Swinburne, written on
the death of Howell on Apr. 24, 1890:

      The foulest soul that lived stinks here no more.
      The stench of Hell is fouler than before!

Howell, like Milverton, was murdered, and deservedly unmourned . . .


|| Peter E. Blau <pblau(at)dgs.dgsys.com> ||
|| 3900 Tunlaw Road NW #119            ||
|| Washington, DC 20007-4830           ||
||      (202-338-1808)                 ||

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:36:24 -0500
From: Brian McMillan <brianbks(at)netins.net>
Subject: Re: Milverton/Howell

Deborah McMillion Nering wrote
>
> To be fair, Howell was authorized by both Rossetti and legal authorities
to
> resurrect Elizabeth Siddal Rossetti in order to retrieve Rossetti's
poems.
> It was also largely due to Howell that Rossetti likely finished the
> exquisite portrait of Siddal as Beata Beatrix.  That he later forged and
> stold Rossetti's work is another thing. That he later became a
blackmailer
> is also another thing.  The fact is, Rossetti wanted the poems and Howell
> was the only one whom he could trust to retrieve them.  Also to be fair,
> Howell was extremely discreet in terms of the state of the body and used
> great tact to assuage Rossetti's feelings (i.e. he didn't write a
> sensationalized account of it for the press).

"Much secret preperation took place in which he [Rosetti] enlisted the help
of a young man called Howell who, as well as being Ruskin's secretary, had
a talent for conspiracy. Through Howell, Rosetti obtained the Home
Secretary's permission for an exhumation, and on a night early in October
1869 'the ghastly business' as Rosetti called it was carried out. The deed
was done by the light of lanterns and the warmth of a small bonfire watched
by Howell, a solicitor and a Camberwell doctor. The receipted bill for two
guineas for the workmen is still in existence..."
From HIGHGATE CEMETARY-VICTORIAN VALHALLA, Introduction by Felix Barker.

  Sounds like Howell was well connected. And he probably wasn't just
thinking of
Rosetti's feelings when he was being discreet.

Brian McM.
brianbks(at)netins.net

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:35:43 -0500
From: Mattingly Conner <muse(at)iland.net>
Subject: RE: more about Charles Augustus Howell ...

Thanks, Peter, for the generous info on Howell. While looking for them on
http://www.amazon.com, I came across this:

Dream Weavers : Short Stories by the Pre-Raphaelite Poet-Painters
by John Weeks (Editor)
Paperback (January 1979)
Woodbridge Pr Pub; ISBN: 0912800739

"First-ever anthology of short stories by the Pre-Raphaelite poet/painters:
William Morris, Dante Gabriel Rossetti, Edward Burne Jones , and more.
Masterful fantasy. Edited and with an introduction by John Weeks."

Sure to have 'Hand & Soul' in it, that quiet little manifesto/revolution of
Renaissance philosophy popping up at the needed time -- a huge influence on
BJ & Morris, reprinted in Yellow Book in '96 to continue to influence the
visionary artist (Yeats and the 'Last Romantics' ripening in an atmosphere
of 'all things Pre-Raphaelite').  Symbolically, Dorian Gray is almost an
inversion of this story. Clever Oscar.  Maybe the moral is an artist can
only paint his own soul...

By my soul,
D.Mattingly Conner
muse(at)iland.net
http://www.iland.net/~muse
In the floods of life, in the storm of work...

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:46:59 -0700
From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com>
Subject: Re: Milverton/Howell

>"Much secret preperation took place in which he [Rosetti] enlisted the help

Much of this was kept secret not necessarily for the press but to prevent
his famil, especially his mother, from knowing.  He didn't want his mother
to be distressed because in order to dig Lizzie up he also had to disturb
the grave of his father.  If you've ever seen the Rossetti's grave in
Highgate it is a small plot that I can only assume the coffins were stacked
in deep underground.  At the time of Lizzie's exhumation only Gabriele
Rossetti, the father, was buried, but later Christina, their mother, and a
nephew later joined them.  Not Rossetti himself (who wished to be buried no
where near Lizzie).

>was done by the light of lanterns and the warmth of a small bonfire watched

The bonfire was thought to "sterilize" any unsafe gasses from the grave.

>Sounds like Howell was well connected. And he probably wasn't just
>thinking of Rosetti's feelings when he was being discreet

Again, in some sad defense of Howell the paperwork was done by Howell but
for Rossetti and it really wasn't that hard to have done.  After all,
Rossetti was justified by the retrieval of the book.  Howell was discreet
in his description of Lizzie's physical state to Rossetti, describing her
as still perfect when after 7 years we know she couldn't have been, and
that her hair filled the coffin.  That he was also discreet to the public
shows some common sense since it might have queered the prices on
Rossetti's art work which Howell also depended on.  He never left a written
record as to the true state of affairs that night for posterity either.

There is a marvelous illustration of Howell and one of his lovers forging
work by Rossetti, Howell keeping watch on the door, by Max Beerbohm in
ROSSETTI AND HIS CIRCLE.

Deborah


Deborah McMillion
deborah(at)gloaming.com
http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:27:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Lincoln's doctors

The Discovery Channel?s  "Forensic Detectives" is sometimes a hard show to
watch, since it deals at times with corpses, and shows footage of
autopsies?which
to the squeamish is likely to produce a turned stomach.  Nonetheless, the
show
is an excellent presentation of how forensic science has made catching
criminals
into a fine art.

An episode of today?s program investigated an old crime, the assassination
of
Abraham Lincoln.  The general consensus of the doctors and firearms
experts
who gathered to discuss the issue was that Lincoln could have survived but
that
the action of his doctors almost assured that he would not.

Part of the problem was the doctors? lack of expertise with bullet wounds.
The
first doctor to examine Lincoln--at Ford?s Theatre--was a young man just
out of
medical school, Charles Leal.  Dr. Leal tried to probe the wound with his
finger
to discover how deep the bullet had gone into the brain. The show?s
experiments
(on a pig carcass) with the type of gun Booth used to kill the President
showed
that the hole was actually too small to let in the finger beyond the tip.
But, though
this kind of probing was considered good medical practice at the time, it
could
only have harmed the President had Leal been successful.  The one
contribution
Leal did make was to perform artificial respiration on the President.
This was a
new technique at the time, and the show?s experts agreed that without it
Lincoln
would have died in the box at Ford?s.

Unfortunately, once Lincoln was moved across the street, he fell under the
care
of the Surgeon General and his own personal physician, Dr. Stone.  The
first was a
"medical bureaucrat" who hadn?t touched a patient in years; the second had
very
limited experience with bullet wounds.  The Surgeon General, falling back
on an
old practice, introduced a metal probe into the brain, pushing it from the
back of the
President?s head nearly to his eyes, creating considerable damage in the
process.  This
was definitely not standard medical practice in the 1860s.  The bullet did
not have
to be removed for Lincoln to survive, but the Surgeon General and Stone
did not know
this.  However, the weight of influence of the two doctors was such that
other doctors
deferred to them--a case of status overcoming good sense.  After the probe
the Surgeon
General, pronounced that Lincoln could not recover.  Even at that point,
this wasn?t
true, but the doctors continued making matters worse until finally Lincoln
expired.
The prognosis for recoving would have been much better, the show?s experts
agreed,
if the doctors had simply done nothing.

If Lincoln had recovered, he would have been blind, deaf, and unable to
speak--an
unfortunate outcome indeed.  But apparently, in their attempts to save
him, his doctors
were guided by what the show?s experts called "the famous person
syndrome." One
expert, a doctor, remarked that the famous and the very wealthy are often
the victims of poor
medical advice and practice because who and what they are affects a
doctor?s perception
of them and what is need to cure them.

Lincoln, it seems, was as much a victim of his physicians as he was of
John Wilkes Booth.

Bob Champ (who has been off list because of computer problems.  Now that I
have a new
hard drive, I hope to continue my regular contributions.)





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rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity

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if it were possible, to speak a few reasonable
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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:46:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Zozie(at)aol.com
Subject: Re:  Lincoln's doctors

Yay!   Gret to see you back on the list... even with a grisly story.

Wasn't that also what happened to McKinley?  He died, ultimately, of
septecemia introduced by doctors fishing around in his wound with their
fingers.

The "famous person syndrome indeed."

best
phoebe

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:22:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kujen(at)aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re:  Lincoln's doctors

How about George Washington?  One young doctor wanted to perform a tracheotomy
but the senior physicians said no, so Washington just died unable to breathe.

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:58:30 -0400
From: Linda Anderson <lpa1(at)ptdprolog.net>
Subject: question from another list

I know we did some Doyle Challenger stuff.  This gentleman has another
question:

>Reply-To: "The_Baker_Street_E-regulars"<bakerstreet(at)UserHome.com>
>
>I know this is off-topic, but I would like to know if anybody out there has
>any information on any Professor Challenger pastiches.  The only one I know
>about is "Sherlock Holmes' War of the Worlds" by Wade Wellman and Manly Wade
>Wellman in which SH and GEC team up to fight the Martian invasion.
>
>Sincerely,
>Joe Thoms
>

any takers?


Linda Anderson
who is very, very! happy to see Bob Champ typing to the world once more!

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:31:56 -0400
From: JDS Books <jdsbooks(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Alien Voices

There is an occasional show on the SF Channel, "Alien Voices"
in which radio plays of famous stories are taped live.  The Halloween
show, to be broadcast Sunday at 9:00PM will present three tales
of galight interest,  Poe's "The Cast of Amontillado", Kipling's
"Mark of the Beast", and Oscar Wilde's "The Canterville Ghost".

John Squires

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Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:28:47 -0400
From: Linda Anderson <lpa1(at)ptdprolog.net>
Subject: Re: Alien Voices

In our TV Guide, the only named annunciated show is the one at 9 pm with
Leonard Nimoy and John DeLancie in the "Cask of Amontillado".  John is "Q"
on the series "Star Trek the Next Generation".  And my favorite actor of
all time behind Christopher Plummer (who should have been in there
somewhere....)

Linda Anderson



At 07:31 PM 10/24/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>
>There is an occasional show on the SF Channel, "Alien Voices"
>in which radio plays of famous stories are taped live.  The Halloween
>show, to be broadcast Sunday at 9:00PM will present three tales
>of galight interest,  Poe's "The Cast of Amontillado", Kipling's
>"Mark of the Beast", and Oscar Wilde's "The Canterville Ghost".
>
>John Squires
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:43:39 -0700
From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com>
Subject: New Story

I am all ready for the new story!  I'm sure we're all in anticipation for a
ghost story this week.  We have done "This is my favorite Ghost Story"
plenty of times on Gaslight and perhaps it gets into that 100 BEST FILMS
thing, i.e. In My Opinion (the only one that counts) classification.

How about something simpler to celebrate Hallowe'en--as in, what's your
favorite Hallowe'en symbol?  Or something else?  Suggestions.

Deborah

(This is also a test message to see if Bob C. is getting his mail from
Gaslight properly)


Deborah McMillion
deborah(at)gloaming.com
http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:44:19 +0000 (GMT)
From: "P Sharpe, Department of Historical Studies" <Pam.Sharpe(at)bristol.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Victorian Crime Conference

WOMEN, WORK AND WELFARE IN TWENTIETH CENTURY BRITAIN
The ninth annual workshop of the Women's Committee of the
Economic History Society
Saturday 14th November 1998
Institute of Historical Research, London
Papers and discussion will cover the themes of variations in
full and part time paid work across time and space; gender,
careers and work; women, health and social policy, including
issues relating to the early National Health Service, smoking
as a gender issue, the work of Eleanor Rathbone and feminist
economics.
Speakers include: Susan Pedersen, Catherine Hakim, Tim
Hatton, Mike Savage, Virginia Berridge, Kelly Loughlin, Hera
Cook
Chairs/Commentators include: Pat Thane, Anne Digby, Pat Hudson

Organiser: Pat Hudson (on behalf of the Women's Committee of
the Economic History Society)
Address: School of History and Archaeology, University of
Wales - Cardiff, Cardiff, CF1 3XU
email: hudsonp(at)cardiff.ac.uk
Places are limited - book as soon as possible

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pam Sharpe, Department of Historical Studies
University of Bristol, 13-15 Woodland Road,
Bristol BS8 1TB
Tel +44 117 928 8394, Fax +44 117 928 8276
Pam.Sharpe(at)bristol.ac.uk

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:18:13 -0500
From: JDS Books <jdsbooks(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Old movie

Last year there was a brief off topic discussion of "Curse
of the Demon", the movie based on M. R. James' "The
Casting of the Runes".  This film is scheduled to be
broadcast on AMC Thursday, Oct. 29 at 10:00 pm
[Eastern time] as part of AMC's Halloween film "Monsterfest".

Pop quiz:  Which H. R. Wakefield story is most like
                    "The Casting of the Runes"?
Extra credit: Which artist associated with "Weird Tales"
                     illustrated the story for August Derleth?

John Squires

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:57:46 -0700
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Etext avail: Charles E. Van Loan's "Tales of the Midnight Club"

(MIDNIGHT.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos, Scheds)
Charles E. Van Loan's "Tales of the Midnight Club" (1904)


               midnight.sht
     Here's next week's story for discussion, Charles E. Van Loan's
     "Tales of the Midnight Club" (1904).  This is the initial entry in
what was to become a series
     for Van Loan when he wrote for the _Los Angeles Examiner_, and before
he bacame a
     full-time author and screenwriter.

     Thanks to Bob Birchard for sending it along.

     It is now available on the website and as an ASCII etext
      thru FTPmail.

 To retrieve the plain ASCII file,
 send to:  ftpmail(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA

 with no subject heading and completely in lowercase:

 open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca
 cd /gaslight
 get midnight.sht

 or visit the Gaslight website at:

 http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/buckmenu.htm


     The reading for this week, which is already upon us, will be H.P.
Lovecraft's "Supernatural horror in
     literature", an essay last revised in 1937.  This will make its
appearance shortly, but we can begin
     discussing it right away.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:02:08 -0800
From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu>
Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Symbol

Deborah McM-N. writes: <<How about something simpler to
celebrate Hallowe'en--as in, what's your favorite Hallowe'en symbol? >>

I am a pumpkin fanatic.  Any color: orange, white, the
French red pumpkins...small, large, funny shaped...any and all
pumpkins!  The minute I see a pumpkin it puts a smile on my face;
autumn has arrived, the leaves are turning, a nip is in the air, the
smell of burning wood wafts through the countryside.  Along with
all this, the pumpkin is the best Halloween symbol -- the jack-o-
lantern.  (Other squash and turnips are used as well in different
locations, but the pumpkin tops them all!)

Throughout October and November I can't resist pumpkins for
cooking as well.  Pumpkin cookies, cakes, baked custards inside
pumpkins, pies and soups.

in the Halloween spirit,
Patricia

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:41:04 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Oct. 26

             1825
                The first boat on the Erie Canal leaves Buffalo, N.Y.
            1881
                Three Earp brothers and Doc Holliday get the best of the 
Clantons and McLaurys in the
                so-called Gunfight at the O.K. Corral in Tombstone, Arizona 
Territory.
            1905
                Norway signs a treaty of separation with Sweden. Norway chooses 
Prince Charles of
                Denmark as the new king; he becomes King Haakon VII.
            1918
                Germany's supreme commander, General Erich Ludendorff, resigns, 
protesting the terms to
                which the German Government has agreed in negotiating the 
armistice. This sets the stage
                for his later support for Hitler and the Nazis, who claim that 
Germany did not lose the war
                on the battlefield but were "stabbed in the back" by 
politicians.


          Born on October 26
            1800
                Count Helmuth Karl Von Moltke, a Prussian Field Marshal, whose 
reorganization of the
                Prussian Army lead to military victories which allowed the 
unification of Germany.
            1879
                Leon Trotsky, a leader of the Bolshevik Revolution.
            1916
                French leader Francois Mitterrand.
            1919
                Mohammed Riza Pahlevi, the Shah of Iran who was overthrown in 
1979 and died in the
                United States

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:57:06 -0500
From: "Richard L. King" <rking(at)INDIAN.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Symbol

Halloween symbols, eh?

Well, of course the pumpkin comes immediately to mind, but I would have to
say fire is the major autumn symbol for me. Saturday night we had one of
those near-perfect evenings with a big bonfire, bourbon and covered dishes
on the tailgate of my pickup truck, and friends over on an evening crisp
and dark enough to make the fire compelling, and...live music! It was an
Irish night (my wife belongs to a session group--several musicians showed
up) and darn if those strange fiddle and whistle tunes dancing in the
firelight didn't conjure up some deeply-buried segment of my genetic code
as we gathered close to the fire under occasional shooting stars. Something
inside realized the vegetation is dying, the time for winter's sleep is
upon us, the uncountable centuries of our ancestors still live somewhere
within us...the seasons, the solstices still happen with a regularity
whether our modern age recognizes them or not. After our guests left, we
put our daughter to bed and the two of us sat up watching the embers burn
low until about 1, the music of the evening still in our thoughts as we
bade goodnight to the Goddess.

Richard King
rking(at)indian.vinu.edu

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:06:53 -0700
From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com>
Subject: Chat: Hallowe'en Symbol

>I am a pumpkin fanatic.

You should be pretty happy this season, Patricia, for some reason a number
of pumpkin books abound.  Ranging from just weird faces on pumpkins, to
cookbooks of just pumpkins to even Hallowe'en food cookbooks with a lot
pumpkin.  Even Victoria magazine's OCTOBER issue had a number of wonderful
pumpkin things.

I like the jackolantern, too.  (Though the ghost is really my favorite
IMAGE).  I have a wonderful book called HALLOWE'EN IN AMERICA that is
really a collector's guide to Hallowe'en collectibles, primarily from this
century.  It really has one of the best histories of Hallowe'en in this
country (with a lot of surprises) I've ever read.  But even better are the
old time cards with jacko'lanterns with entirely different kinds of faces
than we're used to anymore.  Last year we did several Jacko'lanterns from
ghoulish, to Jack Skeleton faces on white pumpkins, to rather pretty ones.
But the favorite was the old time face we did with the round eyes and the
roundier mouth.  It's really different but spooky in a decided
old-fashioned way.  If you're short of ideas I highly recommend this book
for something closer to Gaslight era.

Deborah

Deborah McMillion
deborah(at)gloaming.com
http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:19:13 -0500 (EST)
From: TFox434690(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Symbol

<< Halloween symbols, eh? >>

Those of us from Texas do not often have the opportunity to smell a nice fire,
at least in October so I cannot join in having that symbolize Halloween for
me. I would have to cast my vote for a skeleton. I like two colors, black or
white and when I see one hanging from a tree or a front door it takes me back
to my childhood when such symbols seemed to matter a great deal more.

Tom Fox

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