Gaslight Digest Wednesday, October 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 009
In this issue:
Re: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation]
Today in History - Oct. 19
Re: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation]
Re: WWW etext avail: Besant and Rice's "The case of Mr. Lucraft"
Re: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92
Re: Today in History - Oct. 19
RE: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92
RE: a videotaper alert ...
Re: Chat: Minor Writers
Re: Haunted San Francisco
Re: Chat: know this movie?
_Beloved_ is on the air
Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery
Re: Chat: Laughlin and local ghosts
Re: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92
Poe
Re: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation]
Re: Chat: Laughlin and local ghosts
Today In History - Oct 20
Oliver Stone to direct Custer's last stand
Re: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92
Re: Today in History - Oct. 19
Re: Today in History - Oct. 19
Re: Oliver Stone to direct Custer's last stand
Re: Stephen the Movie Star
Re: Stephen the Movie Star
Re: Poe
Today in History - Oct. 21
Re: Poe
Re: Poe
Re: Poe
Milverton/Howell
Holmes story
RE: Poe
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:48:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: brentb(at)webtv.net (Brent Barber)
Subject: Re: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation]
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Stephen asks : Is Oklahoma still called the "Sooner" state? =A0 =A0 =A0
Yep. In true keeping with the spirit of the state, we call ourselves
after the criminals, cheats, liars, theives and outlaws who snuck ahead
of the "boomer" crowd in the land rush of 1899 to illegally claim land
the government was giving away. It makes a fellow proud don't it? BB
http://members.theglobe.com/brentb/dianne.html
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Subject: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation]
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Is Oklahoma still called the "Sooner" state?
Stephen
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:39:30 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Oct. 19
1812
Napoleon Bonaparte begins his retreat from Moscow.
1848
John "The Pathfinder" Fremont moves out from near Westport,
Missouri, on his fourth
Western expedition--a failed attempt to open a trail across the
Rocky Mountains along the
38th parallel.
1864
Battle of Cedar Creek, Va., a narrow victory which helps the
Union secure the
Shenandoah Valley. (J's Note: I believe this was the battle
that inspired the poem "Sheridan's Ride")
1873
Yale, Princeton, Columbia and Rutgers universities drafted the
first code of football rules.
1917
The first doughnut is fried by Salvation Army volunteer women
for American troops in
France during World War I.
Born on October 19
1817
Tom Taylor, British playwright whose play _Our American Cousin_
was being performed at
Ford's Theater when President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated
by John Wilkes Boothe
1895
Lewis Mumford, American social critic who wrote _The City in
History_
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:31:01 -0400 (EDT) From: TFox434690(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation] Is Oklahoma still called the "Sooner" state? >> Yes, Oklahoma is still nicknamed the "Sooner State." Tom Fox
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:36:48 -0700 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Re: WWW etext avail: Besant and Rice's "The case of Mr. Lucraft" Stephen wrote ages ago: <<I'm having to substitute a story for the previously announced story by Wilbur Daniel Steele which is not in Cdn. Public Domain as I had supposed.>> Ooops...hope my little message on Steele did not break the rules. I'm still catching up on my email since I was away on vacation and didn't read Stephen's message thoroughly at the time. Hmmm... I did see a Canadian Mountie watching my house this morning... Patricia
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:16:34 -0400 (EDT) From: carl w van hyning <cwv(at)cyberia.com> Subject: Re: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92 Have been out of the loop for awhile, but the message on Joan Hickson was filtered on to me. I have always throughly enjoyed her Miss Marple. Some time ago I was rewatching some of the old Margaret Rutherford "offerings" of Miss Marple, and in the one/title of which escapes me now(based on 4:50 from Paddington), there was Joan Hickson. Playing the kitchen help, she was pestered by the child of the household as she peddled home from her day of domestic work at the home of the "scene of the crime." It wasn't the face, but the voice of the actress which had made her recognizable the first time I viewed the old black and white movie. Made me wonder on the paths careers take, from the Margaret Rutherford version, on to her own stellar work as the wonderful Miss Marple she portrayed, and of course everything in between. Thank you for sharing the message of her passing. Now I will plan an at home Joan Hickson/Miss Marple film festival, a weekend memorial. S.E. Van Hyning
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:39:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Zozie(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Today in History - Oct. 19
In a message dated 10/19/98 5:46:13 PM, you wrote:
<<Tom Taylor, British playwright whose play _Our American Cousin_ was being
performed at
Ford's Theater when President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated
by John Wilkes Boothe>>
And another play *Ticket-of-Leave Man* prompted legislation in UK for released
prisoners, who were discriminated against.
best
phoebe
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:02:46 -0400 From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)javanet.com> Subject: RE: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92 S. E. Van Hyning wrote > Have been out of the loop for awhile, but the message on Joan Hickson was > filtered on to me. I have always throughly enjoyed her Miss Marple. She certainly brought Miss Marple to life for me, as much as did Jeremy Brett make Sherlock Holmes so memorably rich and engaging. There is a longer obituary for Joan Hickson in the London Times for October 19. Anyone who'd like a copy via email may write to me. Please put '1019A' in the Subject. Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------- James E. Kearman mailto:jkearman(at)javanet.com http://www.javanet.com/~jkearman Why do you wander further and further? Look! All good is here. Only learn to seize your joy, For joy is always near.?? --Goethe
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:02:49 -0400 From: "James E. Kearman" <jkearman(at)javanet.com> Subject: RE: a videotaper alert ... Peter E. Blau <pblau(at)dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > "FairyTale: A True Story" (1997) will be broadcast on HBO cable on Oct. 19 > at 4:00 pm, and it will repeat on Oct. 29 and Oct. 31. Thanks for the tip, Peter. I was able to be home to watch this for the first time, and I enjoyed it very much. All the main characters the girls, the parents/aunt and uncle, and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, were tied together by a yearning for young men lost before their time. The country seemed to yearn as well, for lost times as well as lost sons and fathers. Cheers, Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------- James E. Kearman mailto:jkearman(at)javanet.com http://www.javanet.com/~jkearman Why do you wander further and further? Look! All good is here. Only learn to seize your joy, For joy is always near.?? --Goethe
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:29:21 +1000 From: Toni Johnson-Woods <t.johnsonwoods(at)mailbox.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: Chat: Minor Writers Again I beg the indulgence of the group...I am trying to compile some mini biogs (about four lines) for my index of serialised fiction in Australian periodicals. Unfortunately, the sources on minor American writers are fairly scarce here down-under...can anyone make any suggestions for places where I might go? I have scoured the net (ie biography.com) and I could possibly BUY a book from amazon.com but which one? The type of authors I seek information are: Henry Dale; Leon Edwards, Robert S. Davis, Bina Wood, Mrs Georgie Sheldon. What I need are birth/death dates; pseudos; types of stories etc. Enough to give my readers a leetle bit about people they may not have heard of. Any suggestions will be gratefully acknowledged cheers toni Bachelor of Contemporary Studies University of Queensland Brisbane 4072 entjohns(at)mailbox.uq.edu.au
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:58:36 -0500 From: smdawes(at)home.com Subject: Re: Haunted San Francisco The movie "Wolf" was also filmed there. Marta athan chilton wrote: > > ... some of San > >Francisco...the very recognizable building with the wrought iron railings > >and elevator used in both BLADE RUNNER and Outer Limits' "Man with the > >glass hand". > > I don't remember this! What building is it, and where in SF--if anybody > happens to know?? > > athan (big fan of haunted SF, w/some experience of same!) > ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:19:39 -0700
From: Robert Birchard <bbirchard(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Chat: know this movie?
Deborah McMillion Nering wrote:
>
> This movie is offered by Invisible Ink, I've never seen or heard about it,
> anyone else know?
>
> Orson Welles' Ghost Story [Return to Glennascaull]
>
> Shot between filming Othello, in angular black and white. A young man
> drives two mysterious ladies/nominated for Academy Award for short subject.
>
> Anyone seen this?
> Deborah
>
I have seen it. It is Black & White and certainly atmospheric, but
I am afraid that I can't tell you much more about it--it just doesn't
stick in my memory. I'd have to say: interesting but not great.
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Bob Birchard
bbirchard(at)earthlink.net
http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/Guest/birchard.htm
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:04:32 -0600 (MDT)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" <SDAVIES(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA>
Subject: _Beloved_ is on the air
The Winfrey/Demme/Morrison/Glover motion picture opened
"respectably" this past weekend; fourth at the North
American box office.
Not so coincidentally, CBC Radio's _Between the covers_
started a reading of Toni Morrison's novel _Beloved_,
today.
_Between the covers_ plays as part of the second hour of
_Richardson's Roundup_ (approx. 3:00 p.m EST, CBC Radio One)
and, I believe, repeats on _That time of the night_ (approx.
10:20 p.m. EST, CBC Radio Two).
_Between the covers_ follows the formula of the old
_Booktime_ whereby books of note are read, in their
entirety, for 15 minutes a day for three to five weeks.
Those interested in catching _Between the covers_ can
tune in to the Real Audio connection at WWW.CBC.Radio.Ca
For those who don't know about _Beloved_, it's a ghost
story set in post Civil War Cincinnati.
Stephen
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:43:59 -0400 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: Mount Auburn Cemetery Jerry Carlson wrote: > > I remember seeing the _Night Gallery_ teleplay of that story, at about the age of 10. Worst willies I've ever had. > Jerry > gmc(at)libra.pvh.org > > >>> "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> 10/17 7:52 PM >>> > For a different approach to this spot, I recommend reading H.P. > Lovecraft's story "Pickman's Model", where Mount Auburn Cemetery is also > mentioned... > Peter Wood If you're scared/interested by HPL's ghouls, try to find any of Clark Ashton Smith's ghoul stories. Necronomicon Press has recently put out nice editions of his Zothique & Hyperborea stories for a good price. ($12 or so is far less than trying to find an old Arkham House book or a Weird Tales) Brian McNaughton's Throne of Bones is another collection of similar stories. Granted, they're both out of the time period but CAS was heavily influenced by several writers from the period and Brian is heavily influenced by both CAS & HPL. (ok, I'm trying to branch out into more authors and also stay within the Gaslight period when posting but when ghouls are mentioned and it's October...) Kevin Clement (finally getting into a Halloween mood) clementk(at)alink.com In case you're interested: The Eldritch Dark: Dedicated to Clark Ashton Smith http://members.xoom.com/eldritchdark/ - - has a large amount of his hard to find poetry and several short stories online Necronomicon Press http://www.necropress.com/ Terminal Fright Publications publishes Throne of Bones (can't find the website I was thinking of for this book)
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:44:43 -0400 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: Chat: Laughlin and local ghosts Deborah McMillion Nering wrote: > ...the very recognizable building with the wrought iron railings > and elevator used in both BLADE RUNNER and Outer Limits' "Man with the > glass hand". I think I may have seen at least one Laughlin book before at a local library. I'll see what I can find tommorow when I return some books. Still waiting for HE to write a full-length episode for Babylon 5, although I'm not sure how you could write a sequel to 'Man with the Glass Hand'. Great building though. > One of the best sources of "local" ghost story resources (one I always > check before I travel) is Invisible Ink's listings. More ghost stories > than you can shake a stake at (oops, wrong cure!). They are now Online, > but the catalogues are fun. Um, where might this be located, online and/or postal? Can't seem to find the website via web searches. I keep getting ISPs, activties for children, and code-making sites... > Deborah
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:56:31 -0400 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92 "James E. Kearman" wrote: > Joan Hickson dies at 92 Her Miss Marple was one of my first introductions to Agatha Christie. I've got an aunt who used to be an English Teacher who has always suggested writers to me, many of which I haven't read until the last 5 years. (now I know why she recommended them instead of most of the stuff I used to read!) She got me to watch several of Hickson's Miss Marple episodes of Mystery which I really enjoyed. In a way she reminded me of my grandmother. Welp, I know what to look for at the library tommorow... Kevin Clement clementk(at)alink.com
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:44:38 -0500 From: Deborah Mattingly Conner <muse(at)iland.net> Subject: Poe The website for info on Poe's possible death from rabies is: http://www.sunspot.net/columnists/data/rodricks/0911rodricks.html From this article, it doesn't seem so crazy. Rabies can be diagnosed by the tell-tale negri bodies in the brain tissue. They stain well... perhaps they should be looked for. Hmmm. What a fun thing to disinter Poe. And he would love it. Charles Augustus Howell, who knows how to arrange these things is no longer available (murdered, Carbonari style: found with his throat slit side to side, outside a bar in the '90's. hmmmm). But, how to proceed... Dr Watson? ~~~~~~ Mebbe in the pause and the spirit of things, you would enjoy my humble ghost story: http://www.jungindex.net/circle/thirst.html With heart, Deborah Mattingly Conner muse(at)iland.net http://www.iland.net/~muse "Love is the burning point of life, and since all life is sorrowful, so is love. The stronger the love, the more the pain." ~Joseph Campbell The Power of Myth
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:21:32 -0500 From: Robert Raven <rraven(at)alaska.net> Subject: Re: Oklahoma [Was: Re: Returned from Vacation] sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA wrote: > > Is Oklahoma still called the "Sooner" state? > Stephen Yep, even though it's been my experience that most things happen later there than anywhere else in the U.S. Bob Raven
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:33:17 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: Chat: Laughlin and local ghosts >Um, where might this be located, online and/or postal? Invisible Ink Online: http://www.invink.com/ Postal1811 Stonewood Drive Beavercreek Ohiion 45432 1-800-31-GHOST I just got a new catalogue yesterday with a rather exclusive English ghost calendar. Look for it (and I might mention I have no connection to Invisible Ink, financial or otherwise--they just have gathered the best collection of "true" and fictional ghosts in every form. Maybe even ectoplasmic?) Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:33:56 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today In History - Oct 20
1805
Austrian general Karl Mac surrenders to Napoleon's army at
the battle of Ulm.
1818
The United States and Britain establish the 49th Parallel as
the boundary between
Canada and the United States.
1870
The Summer Palace in Beijing, China, is burnt to the ground
by a Franco-British
expeditionary force.
1903
The Joint Commission, set up on January 24 by Great Britain
and the United States to
arbitrate the disputed Alaskan boundary, rules in favor of
the United States. The deciding
vote is Britain's, which embitters Canada. The United States
gains ports on the
panhandle coast of Alaska.
1904
Bolivia and Chile sign a treaty ending the War of the
Pacific. The treaty recognizes
Chile's possession of the coast, but provides for
construction of a railway to link La Paz,
Bolivia, to Arica, on the coast.
Born on October 20
1884
Bela Lugosi, Hungarian-born actor, most famous for portraying
Dracula
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:59:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" <SDAVIES(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA>
Subject: Oliver Stone to direct Custer's last stand
According to StudioBriefing (http://www.imdb.com)
(Quote)
OLIVER STONE'S NEXT STAND
Oliver Stone has signed with New Line to direct the General George
Custer biopic Marching to Valhalla, based on the book by Dances with
Wolves (1990) author Michael Blake, Daily Variety reported today
(Monday). Although Brad Pitt was attached to the project when a
$3-million deal for the movie rights was made with Blake, Variety said
that Pitt's participation now is unclear.
(End quote)
I must admit to never having seen _Dances with wolves_.
I thought Costner was going to add another hour of cut
scenes to the movie to make a mini-series of it. Local
actress Tantoo Cardinal said this would be the case when
it was noted how little screen time she had in the final
production.
Stephen
mailto:Sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:19:55 +0100 From: Liza Wright <EWright(at)ealaghol.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Chat: Joan Hickson dies at 92 >Some >time ago I was rewatching some of the old Margaret Rutherford "offerings" of >Miss Marple, and in the one/title of which escapes me now(based on 4:50 from >Paddington), there was Joan Hickson. Playing the kitchen help, she was >pestered by the child of the household as she peddled home from her day of >domestic work at the home of the "scene of the crime." I think the film was called "Murder She Said" or something equally uninspiring! Liza. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ewright(at)ealaghol.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:17:36 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: Today in History - Oct. 19
>1917-oct-19
>The first doughnut is fried by Salvation Army volunteer women
>for American troops in France during World War I.
I was an extra in Terence Malick's _Days of Heaven_ (1978), and one
scene required several of us to be soldiers on the way out of Texas,
heading for Europe. My old flame played a nurse of some description who
held up a tray of doughnuts to us as our troop train pulled out of the
station.
Malick (as is much mentioned in regard to his forthcoming movie) is
quite the perfectionist and it required many takes to get this purely
background shot in the can to his satisfaction. At the end of each take,
the nurse had to jump on the tracks and pick up dropped doughnut "props"
for re-use in the next take. As the train backed into the station, we all
had to lean out and replace what we had just taken. We were incredulous at
one point when an extra started to eat a doughnut that had just passed thru
five pairs of hands and lain on the station platform and traintracks a few
times. But we were all students at the time, if that explains anything.
This particular loop of filming ended abruptly when the train failed
to stop in time and ran over the dolly track for the camera. Malick then
decided it was time to move on to another shot.
Stephen
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:17:25 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: Today in History - Oct. 19 >>1917-oct-19 >>The first doughnut is fried by Salvation Army volunteer women >>for American troops in France during World War I. >I was an extra in Terence Malick's _Days of Heaven_ (1978), and one >scene required several of us to be soldiers on the way out of Texas, >heading for Europe. My old flame played a nurse of some description who >held up a tray of doughnuts to us as our troop train pulled out of the >station....This particular loop of filming ended abruptly This is a wonderful story, Stephen. Did this background shot survive the editing room and in the film? Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:22:27 -0500 From: smdawes(at)home.com Subject: Re: Oliver Stone to direct Custer's last stand I've seen it once, and while it was good, it's one of those movies I could only watch once. For some reason, I have no interest to ever watch it again. My daughter, however, loves the movie. Marta STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE wrote: > > According to StudioBriefing (http://www.imdb.com) > > (Quote) > OLIVER STONE'S NEXT STAND > > Oliver Stone has signed with New Line to direct the General George > Custer biopic Marching to Valhalla, based on the book by Dances with > Wolves (1990) author Michael Blake, Daily Variety reported today > (Monday). Although Brad Pitt was attached to the project when a > $3-million deal for the movie rights was made with Blake, Variety said > that Pitt's participation now is unclear. > > (End quote) > > I must admit to never having seen _Dances with wolves_. > I thought Costner was going to add another hour of cut > scenes to the movie to make a mini-series of it. Local > actress Tantoo Cardinal said this would be the case when > it was noted how little screen time she had in the final > production. > > Stephen > mailto:Sdavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:39:17 -0700 From: Patricia Teter <PTeter(at)getty.edu> Subject: Re: Stephen the Movie Star Stephen wrote: <<>I was an extra in Terence Malick's _Days of Heaven_ (1978), and one >scene required several of us to be soldiers on the way out of Texas, >heading for Europe. My old flame played a nurse of some description who >held up a tray of doughnuts to us as our troop train pulled out of the >station....>> So, did you survive the cuts? Will we see you in the final film? And...did you meet one of my favorite writers and playwrights, Sam Shepard? Patricia Patricia A. Teter PTeter(at)Getty.edu The Getty Provenance Index
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:37:53 -0600
From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
Subject: Re: Stephen the Movie Star
Patricia T. asks:
>So, did you survive the cuts? Will we see you in the final film?
>And...did you meet one of my favorite writers and playwrights, Sam
>Shepard?
No, Shepard's part was filmed in Saskatchewan and rural Alberta. I
was an extra during the closing scenes shot at Heritage Park, Calgary. I
didn't "meet" the stars and they ate separately from the extras, but the
shooting was built around Brooke Adams and Linda Manz. Malick had no
script by this time and was trying several endings, including one in which
Richard Gere returns to Adams and they run away. I didn't know who Gere
was at the time and only saw him from a distance. I thought he was a good
egg to return to the set since his part was done and had already moved on
to another project.
The film is beautiful. It was shot by Nestor Almendros AND Haskell
Wexler.
I've mentioned the film before on this list so I won't cover old
ground, but I can be seen as a scruffy tramp with a scarf using a pickaxe
at a waterpump and crossing the street. I'm the only one in both shots. I
played a townsperson and a soldier, but it's impossible to pick me out.
The train scene remains, I believe.
Stephen
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:20:09 -0600 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: Re: Poe Charles Augustus Howell, who >knows how to arrange these things Am I dreaming, or was there an unsavory character in a Sherlock story who was named "Charles Augustus Milverton"? athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:41:29 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Oct. 21
1805
Vice Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson wins his greatest victory over
a Franco- Spanish fleet in
the Battle of Trafalgar, fought off Cape Trafalgar, Spain.
Nelson is fatally wounded in the
battle, but lives long enough to see victory.
1837
Under a flag of truce during peace talks, U.S. troops siege the
Indian Seminole Chief
Osceola in Florida.
1861
Battle of Ball's Bluff, Va., a disastrous Union defeat which
sparked Congressional
investigations.
1867
Many leaders of the Kiowa, Comanche and Kiowa-Apache sign a
peace treaty at
Medicine Lodge, Kan. Comanche Chief Quanah Parker refused to
accept the treaty terms.
1872
The U.S. Naval Academy admits John H. Conyers, the first
African American to be
accepted.
1879
Thomas Edison perfected the first incandescent electric lamp.
Edison envisioned a
complete lighting system that could compete with the gaslight
of the day.
1904
Panamanians clash with U.S. Marines in Panama in a brief
uprising.
1917
The first U.S. troops enter the front lines at Sommervillier
under French command.
Born on October 21
1772
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, poet.
1833
Alfred Nobel, inventor of dynamite and founder of the Nobel
Prizes
1917
Dizzy Gillespie, jazz trumpeter, famous for Night in Tunisia
and Blue ?n? Boogie
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:49:12 -0600 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Re: Poe There was. Milverton is thought to have been based on Howell, although it seems to me both were much more into blackmail than into nonreligious resurrection. Jerry Carlson gmc(at)libra.pvh.org >>> athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> 10/21 10:20 AM >>> Charles Augustus Howell, who >knows how to arrange these things Am I dreaming, or was there an unsavory character in a Sherlock story who was named "Charles Augustus Milverton"? athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:13:34 -0400 From: "J.M. Jamieson" <jjamieson(at)odyssey.on.ca> Subject: Re: Poe At 10:20 AM 10/21/98 -0600, athan wrote: >Am I dreaming, or was there an unsavory character in a Sherlock story who >was named "Charles Augustus Milverton"? Short story with the same name in _The Return of Sherlock Holmes_. Holmes said he was "The worst man in London...the king of all the blackmailers." He also said "I've had to do with fifty murderers in my career, but the worst of them never gave me the repulsion which I have for this fellow." Mac
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:49:16 -0600
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Re: Poe
At 10:20 AM 10/21/98 -0600, athan wrote:
>Am I dreaming, or was there an unsavory character in a Sherlock story who
>was named "Charles Augustus Milverton"?
Or to rephrase my previous comment, they were more interested in digging up the
dirt _on_ people than digging it _off_ people. &8-{)
Jerry
gmc(at)libra.pvh.org
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:42:48 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Milverton/Howell >There was. Milverton is thought to have been based on Howell, although it >seems to me both were much more into blackmail than into nonreligious >resurrection. To be fair, Howell was authorized by both Rossetti and legal authorities to resurrect Elizabeth Siddal Rossetti in order to retrieve Rossetti's poems. It was also largely due to Howell that Rossetti likely finished the exquisite portrait of Siddal as Beata Beatrix. That he later forged and stold Rossetti's work is another thing. That he later became a blackmailer is also another thing. The fact is, Rossetti wanted the poems and Howell was the only one whom he could trust to retrieve them. Also to be fair, Howell was extremely discreet in terms of the state of the body and used great tact to assuage Rossetti's feelings (i.e. he didn't write a sensationalized account of it for the press). Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:32:44 -0600 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: Holmes story >Short story with the same name in _The Return of Sherlock Holmes_. Holmes >said he was "The worst man in London...the king of all the blackmailers." >He also said "I've had to do with fifty murderers in my career, but the >worst of them never gave me the repulsion which I have for this fellow." Got it! Now I remember the Paget illustration of him--a plump, smug-looking chap; his expression made you want to swat him. Glad to know my memory hasn't altogether failed... athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu > >Mac
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:17:40 -0500 From: Deborah Mattingly Conner <muse(at)iland.net> Subject: RE: Poe Lizzie Siddal's exhumation was arranged by Howell. Later, Rossetti wrote to brother William: ". . . It was a service I could not ask you to perform for me, nor do I know anyone except Howell who could well have been entrusted with such a trying task. . . . I have begged Howell to hold his tongue for the future, but if he does not I cannot help it. . . ." Thinking of the impact of Heathcliff... It was on the collective mind. Wondering why. Certainly, Frankenstein was about the deeper theme of 'The New Prometheus'. People were being resuscitated by electric shock, and the whole question we still deal with of playing God, pulling the plug, was beginning. Wonder if anyone has compiled a list of famous exhumations -- in real life and fiction. With heart, Deborah Mattingly Conner muse(at)iland.net http://www.iland.net/~muse "...Where there is no vision, the people perish."~Proverbs - -----Original Message----- From: owner-gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA [mailto:owner-gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA]On Behalf Of Jerry Carlson Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 11:49 AM To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Re: Poe There was. Milverton is thought to have been based on Howell, although it seems to me both were much more into blackmail than into nonreligious resurrection. Jerry Carlson gmc(at)libra.pvh.org >>> athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> 10/21 10:20 AM >>> Charles Augustus Howell, who >knows how to arrange these things Am I dreaming, or was there an unsavory character in a Sherlock story who was named "Charles Augustus Milverton"? athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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