In this issue: Frank Lloyd Wright house reference Re: Burns's "Frank Lloyd Wright" Re: "The Sting of Conscience" Re: "The Sting of Conscience" Today in History - November 16 [MISTI/FTM attachment transfer error] Fw: [IAFA-L:4518] NEWS-L. Sprague deCamp broke hip & B&N buys Ingram Becquer translation Re: Fw: [IAFA-L:4518] NEWS-L. Sprague deCamp broke hip & B&N buys Ingram Re: Fw: B&N buysIngram -Reply Today in History - Nov. 17 Today in History - Nov. 18 White maniac--read it and scream! Re: Today in History - Nov. 18 Re: White maniac--read it and scream! Re: White maniac--read it and scream! Re: White maniac--read it and scream! Re: "The Sting of Conscience" Re: Today in History - Nov. 18 Today in History - Nov. 19 Re: White maniac--read it and scream! Etext avail: Wright's "The huts of Ellerslie", pt. 1 More on Becquer -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:38:41 -0700 (MST) From: "p.h.wood" <woodph(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Subject: Frank Lloyd Wright house reference Gaslighters who, like myself, are watchers (if not Watchers) of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" may be interested to know that the Mansion which is the Sunnydale HQ for vampires, ghouls, demons etc.etc. is in fact the Brown-Ennis House in Los Angeles, built by FLW in 1923. I am indebted for this information to a correspondent on the <alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer> newsgroup, to which I refer readers for further details. Peter Wood
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:54:16 -0600 From: smdawes(at)home.com Subject: Re: Burns's "Frank Lloyd Wright" I was truly disappointed by this program. After all, Wright's career spanned over 70 years, and the docu was only 3 hours long. The Civil War was less than 4 years long, and Ken Burns spent 11 hours on that. I was really expecting something as monumental as that treatment, and Wright's life could easily have sustained that length, and then some. I felt he really glossed over every point, and didn't go in-depth at all. Anne Baxter, the late actress (a granddaughter of Wright) narrated a multi-part docu perhaps 10-15 years ago that was worlds better than this. A major contention I have is that they didn't even look at the Dana House, in Illinois. It's one of the more inspired of his designs, and I don't remember seeing anything on it in the show. It's been restored to its former glory, and is one of the few early Wright houses to be in a pretty much original condition. This would have been a good place to focus on his earlier career, but they completely bypassed it. There just wasn't enough of his architectural designs/buildings shown, and he didn't delve deeply enough into Wright's life. The only redeeming feature of the show were the interviews with Wright's descendants. I taped it, but don't know that I'll keep it. Marta Robert Champ wrote: > > Tonight our local PBS station (WETA) ran Ken Burns?s film on Frank Lloyd > Wright (with some justifiable pride, since it was produced at the > station). I hope that Gaslighters get a chance to see the program, which > lays out the facts of Wright?s often turbulent life unsentimentally, but > also demonstrates, or tries hard to, why Wright?s genius continues to > intrigue and awe us. > > The one word that kept coming up in the comments of the architects, > former Wright students, architectural historians and critics who made up > the guest list of the show was "transcendent." Wright intended for his > buildings to be spiritual experiences, and for the people who saw, lived > and worked in them to be uplifted, even transformed. So contrary was > this vision to that of most of the modernist architects (people like Mies > Van Der Rohe and Walter Gropius) that for many years he simply did not > work and was considered hopelessly out of touch. And yet Wright > prevailed. He managed to build on his own terms buildings that were > different from anything he had done and more daring than anything the > modernists were doing. Thus, genius always acts. > > Wright, btw, certainly knew that he was a genius. When someone said words > to the effect that he was the greatest American architect of his day, > Wright took umbrage: "What is this about ?American?? he wanted to know. > "And about ?of his day??" He had a monumental ego, in other words, and yet > in his work the ego disappears. As proof of his genius, Ken Burns tells > the story of how he created one of his most famous houses, "Falling > Water," built for the Kaufman family. Wright got the commission, and then > did no work for three months. One day, one of his assistants told him > that Mr. Kaufman was on the phone, and wanted to come to talk about his > house. Kaufman was about three hours drive away. Wright immediately went > to work, and in that three hours produced all the drawings for the > house--a masterwork of design. Obviously those three months of doing > nothing were highly fruitful; an artist is rarely doing nothing, though he > sometimes appears to be simply fiddling around. > > Anyway, if "Frank Lloyd Wright" comes to your local PBS station, try to > take it in. It is well worth watching. > > Bob C. (who certainly hopes that Mike Keating, wherever he is, takes > in this program, since he is a great admirer of Wright) > > _________________________________________________ > (at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at) > > Robert L. Champ > rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu > Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity > > Those who are alive receive a mandate from those > who are silent forever. They can fulfill their > duties only by trying to reconstruct precisely > things as they were and by wresting the past > from fictions and legends. > --Czeslaw Milosz > _________________________________________________ > (at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)(at)
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:50:11 -0700 From: sdavies(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA Subject: Re: "The Sting of Conscience" Bob C. wrote about last week's story: <<It wasn't particularly a surprise to discover that Robert Graham and Lindsey were one and the same person.>> Having read up on Australian murders of this era, I took Robert Graham's disapperance into the river to be typical and true. I therefore suspected Lindsey and the old squatter as being the extant personalities attached to the old case but could not figure out who was who. Incidentally did anyone read the article on "'Sundowner's' and other bush types" (SUNDOWNR.HTM). It lends colour and authenticity to the whole proceedings. I confess ignorance of Australian geography and history, so it was news to me that an inhabitant of Melbourne would be disdainful of the backwardenss of other parts of the country. <<The death-bed scene with Drummond does prolong the suspense nicely.>> And this was also part of the cliff-hanging technique employed by serial writers. I think McColl did a very good job of stringing out the tension. Do we know anything more about his author? Stephen
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:58:18 +1000 From: Toni Johnson-Woods <t.johnsonwoods(at)mailbox.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: "The Sting of Conscience" "Marvellous Melbourne" to use G.A. Sala's phrase was quite a metropolitan city and many visitors to Australia were quite impressed with its sophistication. Many stories contain at least some passing reference to the differences between Melbourne and other cities. Even more impressive was the print industry--Trollope and David Christie Murray (Eng journo and writer) both thought Oz's newspapers would compare favourably with English ones! Sorry Stephen but I haven't searched too far for more info about McColl and nothing else of his ever appeared in any of the Australian journals I read. So perhaps it was a pseudonym or he was a one off... Cheers toni Lecturer Bachelor of Contemporary Studies Faculty of Arts University of Queensland Brisbane. 4072. Australia
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:34:19 -0700 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - November 16 1813 The British announce a blockade of Long Island Sound, leaving only the New England coast open to shipping. 1821 Trader William Becknell reaches Santa Fe, N.M., on the route that will become known as the Santa Fe Trail. 1846 General Zachary Taylor takes Saltillo, Mexico. 1864 Sherman departs Atlanta and begins the "March to the Sea." 1892 King Behanzin of Dahomey (now Benin), leads soldiers against the French. 1907 Indian Territory and Oklahoma Territory are unified to make Oklahoma, which is made the 46th state. Born on November 16 1873 W. C. Handy, father of the blues famous for *St. Louis Blues*
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:46:51 -0500 From: JDS Books <jdsbooks(at)ameritech.net> Subject: Fw: [IAFA-L:4518] NEWS-L. Sprague deCamp broke hip & B&N buys Ingram Gaslight, Here is a forward from IAFA which might be of interest to some on this list. John Squires - -----Original Message----- From: Lewis E. Murphy <lmurp02(at)emory.edu> To: iafa-l(at)ebbs.english.vt.edu <iafa-l(at)ebbs.english.vt.edu> Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 8:59 AM Subject: [IAFA-L:4518] NEWS-L. Sprague deCamp broke hip & B&N buys Ingram > >I received this over the weekend. I thought members of the list would be >interested in this. If these are "old news", my apologies. > >Lewis > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >From: L. Sprague and Catherine de Camp <Lsandcdc(at)aol.com> > >Subject: L. Sprague de Camp broken hip > >Catherine and I wanted you to know, Sprague tripped and fell Wednesday >evening, November 4. He was taken by ambulance to the Plano Hospital. >X-rays revealed a broken hip. Sprague had hip replacement surgery on >Friday. A new ball joint was put in plus a lot of super glue and wires. >He was transferred to the rehab unit yesterday. We pray for a complete >and speedy recovery. I have always said that Sprague is a trooper and a >survivor, but I wish he wouldn't keep putting himself to the test! If you >or any of his friends and fans would like to send a get well card, they >can send it to him c/o Medical Center of Plano, Skilled Nursing Unit, 3901 >West 15th Street, Plano, TX 75075-7799. Catherine celebrated her birthday >on Friday, Nov. 6 without Sprague here. She is a beautiful as ever and in >good health. She is naturally quite concerned about Sprague and visits >him every day. We all hope that Sprague will be home by November 27th to >celebrate his 91st birthday. Catherine sends her love. I hope all is >well on your end. Kindest regards, Sandy Chicoskie [Secr.] > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >Man the Barricades: >Barnes & Noble's Purchase of Ingram Seen As Danger > > Friday's announcement that bookselling giant Barnes & Noble is >acquiring book distribution giant Ingram for $600 million in cash and >stock has set off alarm bells across the publishing and bookselling world. >The purchase would put Barnes & Noble in control of the primary >distributor for its chief online bookselling rival, amazon.com, and for >most small chains and independent bookstores throughout the country. > >"So it's true," Publishers Weekly reported in its online newsletter. "The >days of speculation end with the shocking announcement that B&N will buy >Ingram for a cool $600 mil. > >"The purchase, which will consist of $200 million in cash and $400 million >in B&N stock, will make the entire Ingram Book Group, which consists of >Ingram Book Company, Retailer Services Inc., Ingram Periodicals, Spring >Arbor Distributors, Publishers Resources, Inc. Ingram International, >Tennessee Book Company, Lightning Print and Ingram Library Services, a >wholly-owned subsidiary of B&N. The deal is expected to be completed >within 45 days, pending approval by government agencies. Steve Riggio, >vice-chairman of B&N, said he did not expect any anti-trust problems with >the transaction." > > The American Booksellers Association has issued the following official >statement (available on the ABA BookWeb site at http://www.bookweb.org): >"The American Booksellers Association (ABA) considers the purchase of >Ingram Book Company by Barnes and Noble, Inc., to be a devastating >development that threatens the viability of competition in the book >industry, and limits the diversity and availability of books to consumers. >The Board of Directors of the ABA call on the Antitrust Division of the >U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission to investigate >the proposed acquisition and to take prompt and decisive action to stop >this blatantly anti-competitive combination. > >"This acquisition, should it be allowed to take place, is just one more >example of the large scale corporate consolidation that has infiltrated >every corner of our culture. As the desire intensifies to increase bottom >line profits no matter what the other consequences, so does the >concentration of power in the book industry. Consumers are left with an >environment in which fewer and fewer people are deciding which books get >published, and ultimately, which books Americans can read and buy. > >"Barnes & Noble, a $3 billion company and the largest US book retailer, >recently entered into an alliance with the $14 billion media giant, >German-owned Bertelsmann AG. Ingram Book Company is the largest book >wholesaler in the United States, with over a billion dollars in sales to >independent bookstores and other competitors of Barnes & Noble. Now, with >Barnes & Noble's proposed acquisition of the billion dollar Ingram Book >Company, there can be little doubt that the book industry is falling prey >to the same anti-competitive ills that currently plague the computer >software and other industries. This deal would make independent bookstores >virtually dependent upon their largest competitor, one which the ABA >alleges in pending antitrust discrimination litigation in San Francisco >has had a long-standing, systematic strategy of driving independents out >of business to stifle competition. > >"While there are some smaller, unaffiliated book wholesalers that provide >independent booksellers with excellent service, Ingram Book Company is a >primary distribution source for the vast majority of ABA member stores, >and we consider this development to be deeply troubling. We will use all >of our strength and available resources to fight it." > > ABA President Richard Howorth has asked member bookstores to write to >Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno and Federal Trade >Commission Chairman Robert Pitofsky to protest the acquisition, and the >ABA is providing a model letter (echoing the positions in the statement >above) on its BookWeb site: >http://www.bookweb.org/news/pressroom/1477.html > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:01:23 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: Becquer translation Ever since Eugene Ossa sent us Gustavo Adolfo Becquer's story "The Spirit's Mountain" several years back, I've been nosing around for a translation of other tales by a man with a very obvious gift for telling ghost stories. He wrote in fact a volume of "legends," about 26 tales in all. Now someone has come out with a translation and it's available at amazon.com for $38.00. _Legends and Letters_ was translated by Robert M. Fedorchik, and published by Bucknell University Press. If you remember "The Spirits' Mountain" you might want to consider buying the book. Becquer, seemingly unknown in the US, is widely admired in Spain both as a poet and a writer of tales. "The Spirit's Mountain," which I have taught in my Advanced Writing class since Eugene brought it to our attention, shows just why. Bob C. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Those who are alive receive a mandate from those who are silent forever. They can fulfill their duties only by trying to reconstruct precisely things as they were and by wresting the past from fictions and legends. --Czeslaw Milosz _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:22:00 -0500 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: Fw: [IAFA-L:4518] NEWS-L. Sprague deCamp broke hip & B&N buys Ingram At 10:46 PM 11/16/98 -0500, JDS Books wrote: >>From: L. Sprague and Catherine de Camp <Lsandcdc(at)aol.com> >> >>Subject: L. Sprague de Camp broken hip [snip] Wow, pretty lucky esp. at his age and considering all the rabid Robert E. Howard & H. P. Lovecraft fans who want revenge on his mangling of REH's stories and bungling of HPL's bio. *Cough*. Ok, he wrote some good stuff on his own, did some decent editing at times, and has so far managed to live far longer than most of his contemporaries, and even some of his successors (Karl Edward Wagner springs to mind). Get well! I admit I thought he'd died recently, must have gotten him confused with Lin Carter for a second. >>Man the Barricades: >>Barnes & Noble's Purchase of Ingram Seen As Danger >> >> Friday's announcement that bookselling giant Barnes & Noble is >>acquiring book distribution giant Ingram for $600 million in cash and >>stock has set off alarm bells across the publishing and bookselling world. >>The purchase would put Barnes & Noble in control of the primary >>distributor for its chief online bookselling rival, amazon.com, and for >>most small chains and independent bookstores throughout the country. [snip] Ah, so they finally sealed the deal. Down to only 5-8 major publishers, book store chains, and distributers now? It could be worse though. Comic books are down to 1 distributor basically, and they handle the cards, games, toys, etc. for most comic shops too. Gaming distributors are down to about 3 or so major ones; uncertain right now as gaming companies are going bankrupt or merging left and right at the moment. Well, B&N staff/support can't get much worse but I still am loathe to buy anything online from them. They do have a decent selection at times but really tend to hype the books they want you to buy. (their reprints aren't too bad though; I've found a great Prisoner book and a reprint of de Camp's bio of HPL for cheap there) Holdit, Ingram's the major dist. for Amazon? Hum, Amazon'll either fade or try to get/buy/make another distributor. Sorry not too up on book distributors. Are there any left even close to the size of Ingram? Kevin Clement clementk(at)alink.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:17:09 -0500 From: Sam Karnick <SAMK(at)hudson.org> Subject: Re: Fw: B&N buysIngram -Reply Kevin J. Clement wrote, in part: >>>Holdit, Ingram's the major dist. for Amazon? Hum, Amazon'll either fade or try to get/buy/make another distributor. Sorry not too up on book distributors. Are there any left even close to the size of Ingram?<<< In the magazine realm, I know that Eastern News Distributors and Curtis are both very large firms and have superior lists of clients. Actually, the raw numbers on Ingram make it look more important than it really is -- Ingram is very heavy on smaller-sales items but ships out a huge variety ot things. Other distributors concentrate on sending a large amount of fewer books. Thus the Ingram purchase may seem a horrible consolidation of power. But it is more likely to be simply a good move by B&N. If Amazon feels forced to leave Ingram, it can easily hook up with another distributor, at probably better terms than Ingram is giving. (After all, Amazon doesn't ship to stores and hence avoids the major workload that the vast numbers of returns cause distributors, so the fulfillment is actually pretty easy.) Yes, consolidation has its bad side, as the ABA hysterically points out, but these people are fighting over the equivalent of stone tablets -- the real action is going to be in electronic publications, and, her Best w's, S.T. Karnick
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:28:36 -0700 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - Nov. 17 1800 The Sixth Congress (2nd session)convenes for the first time in Washington, D.C. 1842 A grim abolitionist meeting was held in Marlboro Chapel, Boston, after the imprisonment under the Fugitive Slave Bill (1793) of a mulatto named George Latimer, one of the first fugitive slaves to be apprehended in Massachusetts. Four hundred dollars was collected to buy his freedom, and plans to storm the jail were prepared as an alternative to secure his release. 1862 Union General Burnside marches south out of Washington, D.C. to begin the Fredericksburg Campaign. 1869 The Suez Canal is formally opened. 1877 Russians launch a surprise night attack that overruns Turkish forces at Kars, Armenia. 1885 The Serbian Army, with Russian support, invades Bulgaria. 1903 Vladimir Lenin's efforts to impose his own radical views on the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party has split the Party into two factions, the Bolsheviks, who support Lenin, and the Mensheviks. 1913 The first ship sails through the Panama Canal. 1918 Influenza deaths reported in the U.S. have far exceeded World War I casualties. 1918 German troops evacuate Brussels. Born on November 17 1755 Louis XVIII of France. 1887 Bernard Law Montgomery, British Field Marshall who defeated Rommel in North Africa and lead allied troops from D-day to the end of World War II 1916 Shelby Foote, American writer famous for his three volume book on America's Civil War
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:53:43 -0700 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - Nov. 18 1861 The first provisional meeting of the Confederate Congress is held in Richmond. Travelers to wartime Richmond had a wide choice of luxurious hotels, inns and taverns. 1901 The 2nd Hay-Pauncefote Treaty is signed. U.S. is given extensive rights by Britain for building and operating a canal through Central America. 1905 The Norwegian Parliament elects Prince Charles of Denmark to be the next King of Norway. Prince Charles takes the name Haakon VII. 1906 Anarchists bomb Rome's St. Peter's Cathedral. 1912 Cholera breaks out in Constantinople. Born on November 18 1870 Dorthea Dix, pseudonym for Elizabeth Gilman, who wrote syndicated advice 1900 Dr. Howard Thurman, theologian and first African American to hold a full time position at Boston University 1901 George Horatio Gallup, American journalist and statistician.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:40:30 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: White maniac--read it and scream! Been a little out of touch and don't know if anyone commented on this story but...YIKES! This was one creepy story. I had no idea it would end up the way it did. Starting out with this marvelous mystery of a household all in white attracted me. I like to wear all white around the house, I have a white "moon garden" (not white gravel), I would probably have more white in the house if I could get away with it (maybe on the maniac level, too!) so lots of sympathy here. And then a man slips into a carriage and dresses in black. Hey, I understand that, too-- always wear black when I leave, too. Wow, this is like home! These people know the way of things! And what do all these neighbors mean they're crazy for the white thing? Is that judgemental? Okay. They are. Well, at least Blanche is (great name!!). You're thinking not?--stop it! She is. With the absolute worst craziness of all. The old uncle is right about that. But just because Blanche is nuts doesn't mean I am. Really. Marvelous fun! Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:05:10 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History - Nov. 18 And, in 1874, the National Woman's Christian Temperance Union was organized in Cleveland, Ohio, at a convention. Oh my -- that brings back memories. My Grandmother belonged to that and was a militant. I can see her now, with her silver hair snugged back in a neat bun at her neck, her bright blue eyes crackling, lecturing four year old me on the horrors of drink. I believed her! best phoebe
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:41:31 -0500 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: White maniac--read it and scream! >Been a little out of touch and don't know if anyone commented on this story >but...YIKES! This was one creepy story. I had no idea it would end up the >way it did. [snip] >Marvelous fun! > >Deborah Agreed. Very good shifting of focus back and forth from the uncle to Blanche. The honorable doctor was charmingly naive and inexperienced so that I grinned as he started to go up the stairs. Having read too many Clark Smith stories (as well Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun) I'd guessed the ending by that time. I admit I like red much more than white...(my room is painted a pale blue though thank you) purple's good as well. Great use of color, I could really imagine the setting. Sneaky goings on. Kevin Clement clementk(at)alink.com OT: Sorry mind still spinning from watching the Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace trailer *too* many times. WOW! /^o^/!
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:21:16 +1000 From: Toni Johnson-Woods <t.johnsonwoods(at)mailbox.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: White maniac--read it and scream! If you guys remember Barbara Baynton's "Chosen Vessel" from last year...sounds like from all the stuff we Ozzies send you -- it is a little over the top?! I must admit in my recent study, I found the murders in the popular Oz fiction of the 19th century (especially women such as Waif Wander)a lot ghastlier than their overseas counterpart. In another W.W. story "Dora Carleton" a woman's throat is cut and pictures are taken of the murder scene. Do Gaslight readers reckon the Ozzie stories (except "Sting" which I liked cos it was one of the few Melbourne murders) are bloodier? cheers toni Lecturer Bachelor of Contemporary Studies Faculty of Arts University of Queensland Brisbane. 4072. Australia
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:46:22 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: White maniac--read it and scream! > Having read too many Clark Smith stories Clark Ashton Smith had a nasty habit he did not pick up from Lovecraft of taking a protagonist all the way through a story and just wiping him out unmercivally in the end. At least in WHITE MANIAC the doctor manages to live to tell the tale. The only A-S story where the death of the protagonist was welcomed was Island of the Torturers--a great twist in that one. WHITE MANIAC might get a little obvious right at the end, because what else could happen--still, I like the fact that you pointed out the color angle. This was a very visually colorful story. Imagine all of that snowy whiteness and that one spot of red and the reaction, nay, the transformation that ensues. Wonderfully fun set up. But the affliction was pretty over the top--maybe not today but I can't imagine when this was written what the reaction was. Dare we say it--? It's pretty taboo even today (well...wait...let's hope so!). Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:39:40 -0500 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: "The Sting of Conscience" >I enjoyed the Australian feel of the story, both in the diction and >the author's description of Perth, Fremantle, and other places on >?totherside. > >Bob C. I'm not too familiar with Australia aside from movies, tv, etc. so I too liked the glimpse of the differing sides of Australia. Some of the language and plot devices were overdone and almost tiring at times. exp. The event which was soon to occur would happen in the house of the man that I had just meet yet who I seem to have seen before as I told you before when I was at that other house; got all that? good I shall now proceed to tell you that which I told you I was going to tell you about. But the question of the identity of the shuffling old man in the street and whether or not the suffering narrator would ever find out who Lindsay did keep me reading with interest until the end. I was interested in seeing how the court proceedings would go, quite a bit different than what I'm used to. Sorry for the lateness of this post, I accidently deleted the original email on getting the etext and it took a while to find the story hidden away on my harddrive. Kevin Clement clementk(at)alink.com
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:35:40 -0700 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Re: Today in History - Nov. 18 This in turn reminds me of an old John Wesley Smith cartoon. In this instance Smith is a barkeep telling a customer (as a cross-looking woman comes through the door), "Yes, i ahd this new bar sent from St. Louis ... oh, hello, Miss Nation... cost me $5000 ..." Jerry gmc(at)libra.pvh.org >>> <Zozie(at)aol.com> 11/18 8:05 PM >>> And, in 1874, the National Woman's Christian Temperance Union was organized in Cleveland, Ohio, at a convention. Oh my -- that brings back memories. My Grandmother belonged to that and was a militant. I can see her now, with her silver hair snugged back in a neat bun at her neck, her bright blue eyes crackling, lecturing four year old me on the horrors of drink. I believed her! best phoebe
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:02:08 -0700 From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org> Subject: Today in History - Nov. 19 1863 Lincoln delivers the "Gettysburg Address" at the dedication of the National Cemetery at the site of the Battle of Gettysburg. 1885 Bulgarians, led by Stefan Stambolov, repulse a larger Serbian invasion force at Slivinitza. 1873 James Reed and two accomplices rob the Watt Grayson family of $30,000 in the Choctaw Nation. 1897 The Great "City Fire" in London. 1905 100 people drown in the English Channel as the steamer Hilda sinks. 1911 New York receives first Marconi wireless transmission from Italy. 1915 Allies ask China to join the Entente. Born on November 19 1600 Charles I of England [Gaslight connection: His head kept popping up in Mr. Dick's writings in _David Copperfield_.] 1797 Sojourner Truth, abolitionist and women's rights advocate 1831 James Garfield, 20th president of the United States. 1917 Indira Gandhi, Indian leader.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:48:37 -0500 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Re: White maniac--read it and scream! >> Having read too many Clark Smith stories > >Clark Ashton Smith had a nasty habit he did not pick up from Lovecraft of >taking a protagonist all the way through a story and just wiping him out >unmercivally in the end. At least in WHITE MANIAC the doctor manages to >live to tell the tale. The only A-S story where the death of the >protagonist was welcomed was Island of the Torturers--a great twist in that >one. Sorry should've said more. I mentioned CAS & Gene Wolfe because of their use of, um, the supposed afflication in their stories (heck Severian even partakes in it). Wiping out the protagonist might be part of the reason why I like Iain (M.) Banks. But often in CAS's stories the antagonist(s) would die instead of or along with the protagonist; sometimes the protagonist lived happily ever after or at least lived in some form. I read CAS when I'm not in the mood for happy endings. Actually take a look again at The Empire of the Necromancers and The Dark Eidolon from Zothique and also The Coming of the White Worm from Hyperborea for similar endings to IotT. >WHITE MANIAC might get a little obvious right at the end, because what else >could happen--still, I like the fact that you pointed out the color angle. >This was a very visually colorful story. Imagine all of that snowy >whiteness and that one spot of red and the reaction, nay, the >transformation that ensues. Wonderfully fun set up. But the affliction >was pretty over the top--maybe not today but I can't imagine when this was >written what the reaction was. Dare we say it--? It's pretty taboo even >today (well...wait...let's hope so!). > >Deborah > >Deborah McMillion >deborah(at)gloaming.com >http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html Well I did like the ending as the doctor didn't faint right away. Bright and enveloping (no outlines all white) whiteness. One question though, shouldn't they have worn gloves and masks? Skin can be reddish, lips, etc. I'd say the affliction still shocks today, several movies with related afflications have been quite popular. I'd dread the day when it becomes accepted. Soylent Green is made from-- Kevin Clement clementk(at)alink.com Who did catch Buffy this week. /^o^/! "Would you like a cup of tea?" BAM! WHACK! Poor Giles. :( Spike's back next week! (no Dru?)
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:13:18 -0700 (MST) From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" <SDAVIES(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA> Subject: Etext avail: Wright's "The huts of Ellerslie", pt. 1 (HUTSELx1.HTM) (Fiction, Chronos, SCHEDS) James J. Wright's _The huts of Ellerslie: a romance of Leichhardt_, pt.1 (1898-mar) hutselX1.srl James J. Wright serialized his story _The huts of Ellerslie: a romance of Leichhardt_ in the _Australian Journal_, March-June 1898. The strangeness of the adventure is sure to keep you reading (turning pages? scrolling down?) The greater portion of the first instalment has been resurrected (laboriously) by Toni Johnson-Woods, for our discussion next week. (Quote:) Golden in the morning sunlight lay the undulating ranges stretching westward from McPherson's Station, on the River Cogoon, to the land which no white man had yet trod. The sun, rising in tropic splendour, was lifting the night mists, and revealing a group of men strangely situated. (End quote) It is now available on the website and as an ASCII etext thru FTPmail. To retrieve the plain ASCII file send to: ftpmail(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA with no subject heading and completely in lowercase: open aftp.mtroyal.ab.ca cd /gaslight get hutselx1.srl or visit the Gaslight website at: http://www.mtroyal.ab.ca/gaslight/hutselX1.htm Stephen D mailto:SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:19:58 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu> Subject: More on Becquer Here, from the Barnes and Noble site, is the publisher's description of the Becquer book _Legends and Letters_ that I mentioned yesterday. The description ends abruptly--I'm sure the publisher went on for awhile--but there is enough here to make the book sound very inviting. Bob C. Reviews and Commentary From The Publisher:? Legends and Letters is an English translation of one essay, fourteen legends, and the four "Literary Letters to a Woman" by Gustavo Adolfo Becquer, one of nineteenth-century Spain's greatest lyricists. Much of Becquer's fantasy and creative flow finds stimulation in the light, aura, and mystery of the moon, and in the essay "By the Light of the Moon" we are given a glimpse into the inspiration of numerous legends, especially "The White Doe," where in the moon's light "objects take on a fantastic hue," and "The Moonbeam," where moonlight "spreads a soft melancholy over all of nature." The legends are a singular type of short story: brief journeys to a bygone time. They are a world of heroic architecture, exotic personages, haunted ruins, and majestic cathedrals; a world in which the protagonist pursues the ephemeral, the ethereal, the beautiful, and the mysterious; a world in which the protagonist - in search of love, which is to say in search of woman - frequently risks madness or death. They are grouped here into four categories. The first, Impossible Love, is comprised of "Green Eyes," "The Moonbeam," and "The White Doe," legends that reflect the poet's yearning for an ideal love and an ideal woman with sentiments that find an echo in his verse. The second, Divine Intervention in Seville and Toledo, contains "Master Perez the Organist," "The Gold Bracelet," "The Kiss," and "The Christ of the Skull," tales that evoke celestial music, retribution, and wrath. The third, The Devil's Disciples, includes "Believe in God," "The Devil's Cross," and "The Miserere," stories of satanic protagonists and satanic deeds. And the fourth, Visitors from the Hereafter, is made up of "Haunted Mountain," "The Cave of the Moorish Woman," "The Promise," and "The Gnome," legends that are replete with supernatural occurrences, dark nights of foreboding, illusory images, spirits, and genies. In the four "Literary Letters to a Woman" Becquer considers the nature of inspiration and discovery. _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Robert L. Champ rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity Those who are alive receive a mandate from those who are silent forever. They can fulfill their duties only by trying to reconstruct precisely things as they were and by wresting the past from fictions and legends. --Czeslaw Milosz _________________________________________________ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------ End of Gaslight Digest V1 #21 *****************************