In this issue: CHAT: Halloween movies, etc. Today in History - Oct. 30 Re: CHAT: Halloween movies, etc. Phillip Jose Farmer (http://www.mysterypages.com/farmer.html) A "Wild" anthology U.S. Copyright Law Extension Arno Press Re: Arno Press A Ghost Story Society Re: A Ghost Story Society Curse of the Demon Re: Arno Press Re: Arno Press Re: Arno Press Recommendations Re: Arno Press a new (perhaps) site ... Today in History - Nov. 2 Chat:The Outsider on NPR CHAT: name the decade Re: CHAT: name the decade Re: CHAT: name the decade Today in History - Nov. 3 [MISTI/FTM attachment transfer error] Re: CHAT: name the decade [MISTI/FTM attachment transfer error] RE: CHAT: name the decade Re: CHAT: name the decade quote question Re: Today in History - Nov. 3 Re: quote question Re: quote question Re: quote question -----------------------------THE POSTS----------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:38:49 -0500 (EST) From: Donna Goldthwaite <dgold(at)javanet.com> Subject: CHAT: Halloween movies, etc. Greetings, Thanks to Deborah M. and S.T. Karnick for their comments on my post. Yes, Deborah, GORGO is the one where the parents come to London searching for their little one. Well, at least Mom does, don't remember Dad. (It's been awhile.) The final scene was quite touching <sniff>. As has already been noted, Klaatu took the name Carpenter while wandering around among us humanfolk in THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. Amazing how much this film still resonates after all these years. I watched CURSE OF THE DEMON last night, and it was as good as I remembered. Although _why_ they had to show the final scene during Tim Burton's intro is beyond me. What's the consensus around here: should they or shouldn't they have shown the demon? The tale is that Tourneur didn't want to but the producer insisted. And, IMO, this is one of those movies that deserve the accolade, 'filmed in glorious black and white.' I liked Dana Andrews in this one. For once his lack of affect worked. My all-time favorite picture with him is still LAURA -- picture of an obsession. Two obsessions, actually. And Vincent Price was, well, priceless, as the smarmy lover. As great as Clifton Webb was, I would have loved to see a version with the original choice for Waldo Lydecker -- Laird Cregar, who unfortunately died before filming began, and at a criminally young age. There's another film which I though starred Andrews also, but, now that I check, turns out to be Ray Milland (go figure) called THE UNINVITED (1944). Brother and sister buy a house on the English coast which turns out to be haunted. Great fun, with a great over-the-top performance by Cornelia Otis Skinner. It pops up occasionally on AMC; I'm surprised they didn't run it again this weekend. Just ran across a website I haven't had a chance to explore yet -- on B monster flicks, etc. It's at: http://www.bmonster.com Found it in this week's Netsurfer Digest, which is their Annual Halloween Issue, with their (usual) skewed take on the web: http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/nsd.04.32.html Happy day before the day, people. Donna Goldthwaite dgold(at)javanet.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:02:30 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Oct. 30
1899
Two battalions of British troops are cut off, surrounded and
forced to surrender to General
Petrus Joubert's Boers at Nicholson's Nek.
1918
The Italians capture Vittorio Veneto and rout the
Austro-Hungarian army.
1918
Turkey signs an armistice with the Allies, agreeing to end
hostilities at noon October 31.
Born on October 30
1812
Fyodor Dostoyevsky, novelist
1885
Ezra Pound, poet
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:18:06 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: CHAT: Halloween movies, etc. >GORGO: Mom does, don't remember Dad. (It's been awhile.) The final scene >was >quite touching <sniff>. Yes, both parents are there--final scene was a trio. (sniff...snifff). >should they or shouldn't they have shown the demon? The tale is that >Tourneur >didn't want to but the producer insisted. Saving it for Saturday--seemed fitting to put CAT PEOPLE on the same tape. >that I check, turns out to be Ray Milland (go figure) called THE UNINVITED >(1944). I think they showed this quite a bit this last summer. Very good "puzzle" ghost story. Here, e.g., the big clue is the "scent" of the ghost. As mentioned earlier--scent plays up quite a bit in this kind of phenomena,too. Speaking of which, haven't you ever been reading a story or watching a movie where some smell described hits a trigger and you smell it, too? It may be all in the head, Peter, but it sure makes life interesting. Nice to know somewhere in my head I remember those smells so well. But we also all know how actually smelling something propels us into the past/memories as well. I know everyone is going to be too busy on Saturday, what with preparations for celebrations, movies, good ghost stories. If for some reason you are short on ghost stories of your own the Gaslight Website certainly has a rich store of them. I just did a scan of the archives and we have got ourselves a great collection. No one should feel short of material for this Holiday weekend. Enjoy the thinness of the veil, the Celtic New Year, All Souls, Dia de los Muertos, Samhain, or good old Hallowe'en. Enjoy, be safe, and have fun. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:54:20 -0600 From: Mattingly Conner <muse(at)iland.net> Subject: Phillip Jose Farmer (http://www.mysterypages.com/farmer.html) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE03FC.07798940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Farmer interview! Add it to the cauldron; the old traditions continue... Off to Riverworld. http://www.mysterypages.com/farmer.html With heart, Deborah Mattingly Conner muse(at)iland.net http://www.iland.net/~muse "When things seem simple, I find from experience that I am either wrong or drunk." ~Covert Harris - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE03FC.07798940 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Phillip Jose Farmer.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Phillip Jose Farmer.url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.mysterypages.com/farmer.html Modified=40D476C92D04BE0143 - ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BE03FC.07798940--
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:54:32 -0800 From: "Ann P. Melvin" <ann.melvin(at)sympatico.ca> Subject: A "Wild" anthology Dear Gaslighters - As a literary conceit, let us consider that there are three landscapes: urban = the city; rural = the farm and the countryside; and, The WILD = the North Woods, The Great Lone Land, the Outback, The Land God Gave to Cain, the country beyond civilization, the country of trappers, (preferably mad); hunters; explorers, adventurers. Doing a take on the accepted definition of a Canadian as "one who knows how to make love in a canoe", my working title for my 1999 anthology is _Death in a Canoe; tales of adventure, crime, and terror in The Wild by Canadian authors_. Any time, any place, reprint or original. Do any of you have any suggestions of stories for inclusion? If so, please respond *OFF-LIST* to ann.melvin(at)sympatico.ca with fill bibliographical information, i.e., title of story; author; tilte of source, (collection, anthology, magazine); publisher; place; date. All contributions gratefully received and will be fully acknowledged. My 1998 anthology, _Crime in a Cold Climate; stories by Canadian authors from the Golden Age of storytelling 1880-1920_, with many stories by authors dear to the hearts of Gaslighters is imminently due. More info upon release. All best, David Skene-Melvin
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:53:23 -0900 From: Robert Raven <rraven(at)alaska.net> Subject: U.S. Copyright Law Extension To all, Pertinent to some recent discussion here of terms of copyright, the U.S. Congress has just passed and the President signed into law the 1998 Copyright Extension Act (or some such title). Among other things, it extends the term of copyright protection an additional twenty years, to 95 years after the publication of a printed work. It is NOT retroactive. Thus, works published in 1922 or before are now in the public domain; works published in 1923 will not enter the public domain until 2019. The following URL contains a good discussion of this issue, albeit from a particular bias: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/People/spok/bparchive/1998-10-09:3.html Comments? Bob Raven
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 02:17:54 -0900 From: Robert Raven <rraven(at)alaska.net> Subject: Arno Press To all: I recently had the good fortune to obtain, for two whole dollars (US) a hardbound copy of Walter De La Mare's 1910 novel The Return, in excellent condition, from a discard sale at our local library. This was reprinted by Arno Press (a New York Times Company), in 1976. In the back is an extensive list of other texts they published, all old supernatural and occult fiction that should be of interest to Gaslighters. Does anybody know anything about this publisher or the books they published? I'd particularly like to get my acquisitive paws on many of the other titles, but I've never seen them even in used bookstores. They include works by E. F. Benson, Blackwood, Balzac, Haggard, Le Fanu, Arthur Machen, and many others. Any info is appreciated. Bob Raven
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 08:14:55 -0500
From: JDS Books <jdsbooks(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Arno Press
Bob,
Arno was one of several publishers (Irvington Publishers,
Gregg Press [Ridgewood, NJ], Books For Libraries Press)
which specialized in relatively small runs of high priced
uniformly bound offset reprints. They had series on SF,
Supernatural fiction & other genre groupings. They marketed
primarily to libraries, rather than individuals, though you could
direct order if you knew of them.
There was a lot of consolidation among these publishers in
the early 1980s [?]. Arno took over Irvington, & eventually got
bought out by someone else. I remember reading an excited
announcement in the SFRA Newsletter about how the new owner
would sell Arno's SF titles to SFRA members at a discount for a
time, but their "discounted" prices were substantially marked up
from Arno's original prices on publication.
The last time I checked _Books in Print_ for specific titles,
Arno's two Shiel reprints were still available, but I don't recall what
"publisher's" name they were being marketed under. Arno published
some useful titles, including the only reprint of the 1901 text of Shiel's
_The Lord of the Sea_, but the bindings were unattractive, they were
overpriced, and they lacked introductions. Gregg Press [Boston] did
a far better job in all respects with a similar reprint series of SF titles,
but if you can find Arno editions of titles you want used & cheap they
are good reading copies. I would certainly love to pick up a pile of
their Shiels for a couple of bucks each!
Best,
John Squires
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From: Robert Raven <rraven(at)alaska.net>
To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA <gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA>
Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 2:36 AM
Subject: Arno Press
>To all:
>
>I recently had the good fortune to obtain, for two whole dollars (US) a
>hardbound copy of Walter De La Mare's 1910 novel The Return, in
>excellent condition, from a discard sale at our local library. This was
>reprinted by Arno Press (a New York Times Company), in 1976. In the
>back is an extensive list of other texts they published, all old
>supernatural and occult fiction that should be of interest to
>Gaslighters. Does anybody know anything about this publisher or the
>books they published? I'd particularly like to get my acquisitive paws
>on many of the other titles, but I've never seen them even in used
>bookstores. They include works by E. F. Benson, Blackwood, Balzac,
>Haggard, Le Fanu, Arthur Machen, and many others. Any info is
>appreciated.
>
>Bob Raven
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 10:10:57 -0500 (EST) From: Donna Goldthwaite <dgold(at)javanet.com> Subject: A Ghost Story Society Greetings, You've probably all heard of this already, but the following message was posted to one of my listservs, and I thought Gaslighters might be interested. Thanks to another poster on benson, I have the URL for the GSS website: http://www.ash-tree.bc.ca/GSS.html Enjoy. Donna Goldthwaite dgold(at)javanet.com >X-Webtv-Signature: 1 > ETAsAhQO8GwIAbHlJGS3IV7WyX1+3fSBLAIUFZTcsa7Y/teSYpfl6k6LY3F3m9A= >From: wrfrahm(at)webtv.net (W. Richard Frahm) >Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:48:15 -0800 (PST) >To: benson(at)world.std.com >Subject: A Ghost Story Society >Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) >Sender: benson-approval(at)world.std.com >Precedence: list >Reply-To: benson(at)world.std.com >Status: U > >In my morning edition of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer for Oct. 31 >appears an original article by Cecelia Goodnow "The Ghost Story Rises >From the Dead." As Benson and now Pug and Lord Tony have written in >this genre, some excerpts may interest our group. > >"More dead than alive, it hovers malevolently in a dark corner of the >publishing world, refusing to leave this world gracefully: >It is the literary ghost story. >Since its heyday in turn-of-the-century England, the classic ghost story >has nearly faded away, overshadowed by the blood-and-splatter of the >horror genre. >But its spirit lives on in the Ghost Story Society. >Founded in England a decade ago, the society is just starting to make >its presence felt. >Now based in the tiny hamlet of Ashcroft, B.C., about 200 miles north of >Vancouver, the society numbers 300 members worldwide. Its thrice-yearly >journal, "All Hallows," publishes original fiction, book reviews and >historical critiques. >The society offers a spiritual haven for aficionados who think >mainstream publishers have abandoned the erudite ghost story in favor of >the horror market. >"People have been grossed out as much as they can take," said Barbara >Roden, 34, who runs the society with her husband, Chris, 50. "I think >people are wanting to go back to something a bit more restrained, which >leaves something to the imagination." >As far as she knows, the Ghost Story Society faces no grave competition. >Its only counterpart is the British journal "Ghosts & Scholars," which >focuses exclusively on the literary tradition of M. R. James, a >Cambridge don whose 1904 collection, "Ghost Stories of an Antiquary," >helped launch the golden age of ghost stories." End of quote. > >No mailing or e-mail address is given for the Ghost Story Society and >the writer of this article will not be available until this coming >Wednesday. However, those interested might check with Cecelia Goodnow at >her e-mail address: >ceceliagoodnow(at)seattle-pi.com > >Blue Birdie (one of Benson's better apparitions) aka Richard Frahm > > >
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 09:22:14 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: A Ghost Story Society > You've probably all heard of this already, but the following >message was posted to one of my listservs, and I thought Gaslighters might >be interested. Thanks to another poster on benson, I have the URL for the >GSS website: > >http://www.ash-tree.bc.ca/GSS.html It's still nice to have reminders once in awhile. The Rodens are Gaslight members and have been good enough to afford me the opportunity to illustrate both their ghost journal ALL HALLOWS and several of their book covers. Their books bring back some excellent old editions.--currently the GRIM MAIDS series and the E.F. Benson series are ones to keep your eye on. They go fast so if this is your forte keep your eye on their list. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 09:24:27 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Curse of the Demon 3 comments The Hobarts and their farm was a treat--they could have been the Starkadders at Cold Comfort. I wasn't expecing "Cherry Ripe" sung to bring spirits from someone who looked like Mrs. Danvers. What a delightful scene! Mr. Meeks the medium yelled as Harrington "It's in the Trees! It's Coming!" Now I know where this line comes from in the Kate Bush song. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 09:03:09 -0800
From: Robert Birchard <bbirchard(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Arno Press
Robert Raven wrote:
>
> To all:
>
> I recently had the good fortune to obtain, for two whole dollars (US) a
> hardbound copy of Walter De La Mare's 1910 novel The Return, in
> excellent condition, from a discard sale at our local library. This was
> reprinted by Arno Press (a New York Times Company), in 1976. In the
> back is an extensive list of other texts they published, all old
> supernatural and occult fiction that should be of interest to
> Gaslighters. Does anybody know anything about this publisher or the
> books they published? I'd particularly like to get my acquisitive paws
> on many of the other titles, but I've never seen them even in used
> bookstores. They include works by E. F. Benson, Blackwood, Balzac,
> Haggard, Le Fanu, Arthur Machen, and many others. Any info is
> appreciated.
>
> Bob Raven
Arno Press was an active reprint house in the 1970's specializing
in mystery/occult fiction and motion picture history. They produced a
number of books, but their sales were geared primarily to libraries. It
is rare to find Arno books in private hands--they were simply too
expensive for the average buyer.
- --
Bob Birchard
bbirchard(at)earthlink.net
http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/Guest/birchard.htm
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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:06:18 -0600
From: brenda hammack <bhammack(at)roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Arno Press
Does anybody know anything about this publisher or the
> books they published?
I accessed several Arno Press publications through Interlibrary Loan
last year, including:
_Mirrikh Or, A Woman from Mars: A Tale of Occult Adventure_
by Francis Worcester Doughty
_The Mummy and Miss Nitocris: A Phantasy of the Fourth Dimension_
by George Griffith
_The Beetle_
by Richard Marsh
_The House of the Vampire_
by George Sylvester Viereck
I enjoyed reading all of these works (though I found the latter to be
rather weak, derivative of Dorian Gray from what I can recall). I have
read _The Return_ as well. Can anyone recommend other texts in the Arno
bibiliography? I would like to work my way through the Arno publications
at some remote post-dissertational date.
Brenda Hammack
bhammack(at)roanoke.infi.net
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:11:25 +1000 From: Toni Johnson-Woods <t.johnsonwoods(at)mailbox.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: Arno Press Recommendations I challenge you to Arno's _Varney the Vampire_!! Three volumes of excrutiatingly difficult to read print. But worth the effort. Cheers toni (johnson-woods) DepartmentnContemporary Studies University of Queensland Brisbane 4072 entjohns(at)mailbox.uq.edu.au
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:56:49 -0900 From: Robert Raven <rraven(at)alaska.net> Subject: Re: Arno Press To John & Robert & Brenda & Toni (all of whom responded to my inquiry), A big thanks. Sounds like I got incredibly lucky with this one. The copy I have was in the library discard sale because it had been checked out all of 3 times, twice in 1987 and once in 1990. Except for a couple of library stamps and a taped library designation on the spine it's in near pristine condition. I'll be on the lookout for others of this publisher's list. Bob Raven
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:08:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "Peter E. Blau" <pblau(at)dgs.dgsys.com>
Subject: a new (perhaps) site ...
In case this site hasn't been mentioned to the list before:
David Schwartz reported in the Washington Post (Oct. 29) that "The Literary
Gothic page is the best Halloween treat on the Web--a huge compilation of
links to horror writers. Site creator Jack Voller, a professor at Southern
Illinois University, includes links to 'Dracula' and 'Frankenstein'. The
most famous ghost stories are also available, such as W. W. Jacobs' 'The
Monkey's Paw' and F. Marion Crawford's 'The Upper Berth'. Voller also has
links to such neglected masters of the good scare as Robert W. Chambers and
Mary E. Wilkins Freeman."
The URL is www.siue.edu/~jvoller/gothic.html
|| Peter E. Blau <pblau(at)dgs.dgsys.com> ||
|| 3900 Tunlaw Road NW #119 ||
|| Washington, DC 20007-4830 ||
|| (202-338-1808) ||
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:32:07 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Nov. 2
1868
Ulysses S. Grant elected 18th president.
1883
A poorly trained Egyptian army, led by British General William
Hicks, marches toward El
Obeid in the Sudan--straight into a Mahdist ambush and massacre.
1883
U.S. Supreme Court declares American Indians to be "dependent
aliens."
1896
William McKinley elected 25th president.
1908
William H. Taft elected 27th president.
1912
First all metal plane flown near Issy, France by pilots Ponche
and Prinard.
1918
Mutiny of the German fleet at Kiel.
Born on November 3
1901
Leopold III, King of Belgium.
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:16:52 -0500 From: "Kevin J. Clement" <clementk(at)alink.com> Subject: Chat:The Outsider on NPR This is from the alt.horror.cthulhu newsgroup. Since several on the list have mentioned this reading of "The Outsider" here's a chance to listen to it again (or for the first time in my case). > From: kayven(at)aol.com (KAYVEN) > Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu > Subject: "The Outsider" on radio & now Real Audio > X-Admin: news(at)aol.com > Date: 02 Nov 1998 14:50:33 GMT > > This weekend, on Weekly Edition - The Best of NPR News, the radio program > pulled out an old (1981) radio adaption of H.P. Lovecraft's "The Outsider" for > Halloween. The adaption was from a special All Things Considered broadcast > from 1981 that featured Gahan Wilson and Bob Balaban. > > Not only that, but now the story is on their web page in Real Audio at: > > http://www.npr.org/programs/weed/archives/1998/current.html > > > Its actually rather entertaining. The story is told in segments with Gahan > Wilson breaking in and giving facts about Lovecraft's life while he is at a > Halloween party at Arkham, Mass. > > > BTW, does anyone know of anyway to download and save streaming audio? For > temporary personal use, of course. > > > --- Steven Marc Harris I think the actual link is http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/weed/19981031.weed.04.ram About 28 minutes. RealPlayer 2..0 on up required. Quite creepy for NPR and a good tale as well. Kevin Clement clementk(at)alink.com
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:34:59 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" <SDAVIES(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA>
Subject: CHAT: name the decade
What will be the numeric name for the next decade?
We've been thru the '80's, the '90's, and are going
into the ..... ?
We refer to the past initial decades as the Napoleonic
era or as the Edwardian age. I don't remember them
called the zeroes.
My parents would refer to the year 2000 as the year
nought (pronounced "not"). Perhaps these could be
the noughties.
Stephen D
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:50:28 -0600 (CST)
From: James Rogers <jetan(at)ionet.net>
Subject: Re: CHAT: name the decade
At 10:34 AM 11/3/98 -0700, you wrote:
> What will be the numeric name for the next decade?
>
> We've been thru the '80's, the '90's, and are going
> into the ..... ?
>
> We refer to the past initial decades as the Napoleonic
> era or as the Edwardian age. I don't remember them
> called the zeroes.
>
> My parents would refer to the year 2000 as the year
> nought (pronounced "not"). Perhaps these could be
> the noughties.
>
> Stephen D
I have always heard them called "the hundreds" although
it may be that "millenium" will come to be the more popular name for the
upcoming decade.
James
James Michael Rogers
jetan(at)ionet.net
Mundus Vult Decipi
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:15:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ <rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu>
Subject: Re: CHAT: name the decade
On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE wrote:
> What will be the numeric name for the next decade?
>
> My parents would refer to the year 2000 as the year
> nought (pronounced "not"). Perhaps these could be
> the noughties.
>
> Stephen D
>
My check card sez that it expires on 08/00, so perhaps we could call it
the "ooh" decade, though that isn't half so clever as the "noughties."
I also thought of calling the decade the "newsages," which
can be read/pronounced either as the "new sages" or the "news ages.
And if you are feeling particularly apocalyptic, it could be
be drawn out to form the "noose ages."
I like "noughties" very much, though.
Bob C.
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Editor, teacher, anglophile, human curiosity
Those who are alive receive a mandate from those
who are silent forever. They can fulfill their
duties only by trying to reconstruct precisely
things as they were and by wresting the past
from fictions and legends.
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:36:04 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Today in History - Nov. 3
1813
American troops destroy the Indian village of Tallushatchee in
the Mississippi Valley.
1883
A poorly trained Egyptian army, led by British General William
Hicks, marches toward El
Obeid in the Sudan--straight into a Mahdist ambush and massacre.
1883
U.S. Supreme Court declares American Indians to be "dependent
aliens."
1896
William McKinley elected 25th president.
1908
William H. Taft elected 27th president.
Born on November 3
1918
Russell Long, U.S. senator from Louisiana 1951-68
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:48:27 -0700
From: Jerry Carlson <gmc(at)libra.pvh.org>
Subject: Re: CHAT: name the decade
>>> "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" <SDAVIES(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA> 11/03 10:34 AM
>>>
What will be the numeric name for the next decade?
We've been thru the '80's, the '90's, and are going
into the ..... ?
We refer to the past initial decades as the Napoleonic
era or as the Edwardian age. I don't remember them
called the zeroes.
My parents would refer to the year 2000 as the year
nought (pronounced "not"). Perhaps these could be
the noughties.
Stephen D
I once read the first decade of the Twentieth Century referred to as the
"Naughty Oughties" - derived much like to "the blue ribbon class of Nineteen
Ought Eight" in _The Music Man_.
Jerry
gmc(at)libra.pvh.org
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 14:45:09 -0600 From: Mattingly Conner <muse(at)iland.net> Subject: RE: CHAT: name the decade Beautiful Bob C says: I also thought of calling the decade the "newsages," which can be read/pronounced either as the "new sages" or the "news ages. And if you are feeling particularly apocalyptic, it could be be drawn out to form the "noose ages." I like "noughties" very much, though. Bob C. . . . Is that like the Nous Age? (Sounds scarey) With heart, Deborah Mattingly Conner muse(at)iland.net http://www.iland.net/~muse So each entered the forest at a point that he, himself, had chosen, where it was darkest and there was no path. ~La Queste del Saint Graal - -
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:55:31 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: CHAT: name the decade How about the Nulls? lightly, phoebe
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:54:47 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: quote question Aaargh... my brain will not deliver memory. Where does the phrase "the ghost in the machine" come from? Someone (or all of you) must know. hopefully, phoebe
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:38:32 -0500 (EST) From: Zozie(at)aol.com Subject: Re: Today in History - Nov. 3 Also born this day in 1841, Isabella Macdonald Alden, nom de plume "Pansy", wrote somewhere around 75 children's books... even though she suffered from severe migraines. phoebe
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:45:55 -0600 From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> Subject: Re: quote question >Aaargh... my brain will not deliver memory. Where does the phrase "the ghost >in the machine" come from? Someone (or all of you) must know. > >hopefully, >phoebe I believe it's a song title by Sting. Though maybe he got it from somewhere else before that. athan ayc(at)uiuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:18:06 -0600 From: Brian McMillan <brianbks(at)netins.net> Subject: Re: quote question This was the (2nd or 3rd) album by THE POLICE. (Sting, et al). Brian - ---------- > From: athan chilton <ayc(at)UIUC.EDU> > To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA > Subject: Re: quote question > Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:45 AM > > >Aaargh... my brain will not deliver memory. Where does the phrase "the ghost > >in the machine" come from? Someone (or all of you) must know. > > > >hopefully, > >phoebe > > I believe it's a song title by Sting. Though maybe he got it from > somewhere else before that. > > athan > ayc(at)uiuc.edu > >
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:23:17 -0700 From: Deborah McMillion Nering <deborah(at)gloaming.com> Subject: Re: quote question >I believe it's a song title by Sting. Though maybe he got it from >somewhere else before that. It's also an episode title for Xfiles, but yes, I definitely believe it is from someplace else but I can't find anything. Nothing in Bartletts either. Deborah Deborah McMillion deborah(at)gloaming.com http://www.gloaming.com/deborah.html ------------------------------ End of Gaslight Digest V1 #16 *****************************