Gaslight digest of discussion for 97-apr-28



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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:30:16 -0400
From: cwt3(at)juno.com (carl w thiel)
Subject: Re: porching [11395]

Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:49:38 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" 
Subject: Etext avail: John Bennett's "The remember service" [11396]

Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:32:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ 
Subject: Reeve's scientists [11397]

Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ 
Subject: More on Becquerel [11398]


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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:30:16 -0400
From: cwt3(at)juno.com (carl w thiel)
Subject: Re: porching [11395]



I write regarding the recent query about "porching" as defined below:

>DEATH WATCH. (A folkloristic belief that the
>spirits of those due to die within the next
>year will be seen at a certain time and place--
>usually the church.  In England called porching
>or church-porching.)

This brings to mind something I thought I'd forgotten.  About 25 years
ago I remember watching George Gobel (Ol' Lonesome George?) on the
Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and George made a comment which, in
context of the story he was telling, I understood to be rather positive. 
I cannot recall the story, but the phrase he used was, "I was so excited,
I was in like a porch climber."

>From that day till now, I have had no idea what a porch climber might
be.  I doubt if it's related to an activity having to do with
"deathwatching", but one does not know.

Anyone recognize the term as George used it?

Carl William Thiel
cwt3(at)juno.com



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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:49:38 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE" 
Subject: Etext avail: John Bennett's "The remember service" [11396]



                         REMBERSV.SHT
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         our tour of the American South.  This short, weird
         story was prepared by our guide, Deborah McMillion.

         Discussion of this story will begin Mon, 97-may-05.

         Send to: mailserv(at)mtroyal.ab.ca

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         ===> Current reading schedule  ===> 1997-may-05

                                          Stephen D
                                          SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca



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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:32:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ 
Subject: Reeve's scientists [11397]



I've been tracking down some of the people mentioned in "The Invisible
Ray."  Among the scientists, the Curies are, of course, well-known figures, 
but Becquerel and Ramsay frankly stumped me.  Here are a couple of brief
bios. from the A&E Biography page.


Becquerel, (Antoine) Henri 

(1852--1908) 

Physicist, born in Paris. An expert on fluorescence, he discovered the 
Becquerel rays , emitted from the uranium salts in pitchblende, which 
led to the isolation of radium and to the beginnings of modern nuclear 
physics. For his discovery of radioactivity he shared the 1903 Nobel 


Ramsay, Sir William 

(1852--1916) 

Chemist, born in Glasgow, Strathclyde. He studied at Heidelberg, and 
became professor of chemistry at Bristol (1880--7) and University College, 
London (1887--1912). In conjunction with Lord Rayleigh he discovered 
argon in 1894. Later he identified helium, neon, krypton, and xenon, and 
was awarded the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1904. 

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Ramsay's Nobel Prize reads "in recognition of his discoveries of the
inert gaseous elements in air, and his determination of their place in the
periodic system."  Reeve's description of our bogus scientist Prescott 
and his claims to have discovered new element and correctly placed them
in the periodic table were probably intended to remind readers of the
story of what a real scientist had done just a few years before.

I'll  tackle the alchemists shortly.  The real mystery man seems to be
Professor Tamassia of the University of Padua, who developed the method
of establishing identity through vein patterns on the hand.  I've never
heard of the man or the method, but Reeve's technique isn't simply to
make up someone or play loose with facts.  Thus, in some obscure book
on early twentieth century criminology there is undoubtedly a discussion
of him.

Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ 
Subject: More on Becquerel [11398]



Here is some more information about Becquerel.  Note that Prescott 
remarks that "we have only begun to know of X-rays and the alpha,
beta, and gamma rays from them, of radium, radioactivity..."  It
is clear that Becquerel's discoveries were behind this allusion.  Moreover,
Becquerel's apparatus, as described here, seems to have some curious
resemblances to Prescott's.  

Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu

>>Antoine Henri Becquerel was from a family of eminent scientists, both 
his father and grandfather were prominent French physicists. In 1892 
he became professor of applied physics at the Musee d'Histoire Naturelle 
(Museum of Natural History) in Paris, a position that both his father and 
grandfather had held before him. In 1895 he received an appointment at 
L'Ecole Polytechnique in Paris. 

His discovery of radioactivity resulted from that combination of things 
that often appears to be associated with great discoveries, the discovery 
comes from research whose goal is to understand something else. 

After the discovery of x-rays by Roentgen in 1895, Becquerel began an 
investigation of their properties. This was done by using a Crooke's Tube 
(an evacuated tube in which one could produce a high voltage discharge 
to produce the electrons when the electrons were rapidly decelerated upon 
colliding with a copper anode). To view the x-rays one used various 
phophorescent salts. He noted that the uranyl salts he was using for these 
fluorescence studies appeared to give off their own radiation. This 
radiation was determined to be different from that of the x-rays he had 
been studying and was, in fact, shown to be three different kinds of 
radiation which were called alpha, beta and gamma rays. We now 
understand that the first two of these are not "rays", but are in fact 
particles, and that only the last is a form of electromagnetic radiation. 

If Becquerel had not been investigating x-rays, he probably would not 
have discovered radioactivity. If he had not been trained to be inquisitive, 
that is if he had convinced himself that there was probably something 
wrong with his experiment or if he had not recognized what was unusual, 
he probably would not have discovered radioactivity. Lastly, if he had 
not pursued an answer to what he saw, if he had just returned to doing 
what he had been doing, he probably would not have discovered 
radioactivity. <<

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