Gaslight digest of discussion for 97-apr-23, part two
This is the second half of the digest, still showing
some of the error mailing loop.
---------------------------THE HEADERS-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:26:02 -0500
From: "Marsha J. Valance"
Subject: Multiple misdirected mail [11331]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:37:39 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11332]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:47:23 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11333]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:47:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: RE: Undeliverable Mail [11332] [11334]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:48:17 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:14:31 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11336]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:16:06 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11337]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:01:15 -0500
From: "Marsha J. Valance"
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11338]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:32:08 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11339]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:42:18 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11340]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:50:55 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11341]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:00:21 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11342]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:08:12 -0600 (MDT)
From: John Woolley
Subject: Re: Ingoldsby's "The spectre of Tappington" [11309] [11311] [11343]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:20:32 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11344]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:14:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Idys W. Cox"
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11345]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diane Dobson
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11346]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:15:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: "p.h.wood"
Subject: Re: Ingoldsby's "The spectre of Tappington" [11309] [11311] [11343]
[11347]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:38:00 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: Kipling links [11306] [11307] [11348]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:38:43 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: Kipling links [11306] [11307] [11349]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:31:35 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: What is "porching" or "church-porching"? [11317] [11350]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:52:55 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Saki by your bedside (also O.Henry and Howard Hawks) [11351]
----------------------------THE POSTS-----------------------------
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:26:02 -0500
From: "Marsha J. Valance"
Subject: Multiple misdirected mail [11331]
I now have received 11 copies of this message. What's going on?
Marsha in Milwaukee
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Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Undeliverable Mail [11328]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:15 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 4:22 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:37:39 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11332]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Undeliverable Mail [11330]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:30 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 4:37 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:47:23 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11333]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Undeliverable Mail [11332]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:40 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 4:47 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:47:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: RE: Undeliverable Mail [11332] [11334]
The situation might be worse. It could be an undeliverable baby.
Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:48:17 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335]
Marsha,
we have a mail loop on the go, which I have been
trying to stop since for a couple of hours. A listmember
in Florida has an improperly set mail account, whereby
e-mail errors are returned to the sender instead of
to the error address. Each returned error message
becomes a post itself, and so the cycle continues.
I believe I have identified the Gaslight acct
which needs to be unsubbed in order to stop this loop,
but the Mount Royal College VAX is slow to process
my commands. It's been about half an hour since I
found the correct address and asked the computer to stop
the insanity.
I have also written to the offending postmaster
who is responsible for the incorrect setup of the e-mail
program in Florida.
Stephen "Quickdraw" D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:14:31 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11336]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Multiple misdirected mail [11331]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:07 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:14 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:16:06 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11337]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: RE: Undeliverable Mail [11332] [11334]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:09 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:16 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:01:15 -0500
From: "Marsha J. Valance"
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11338]
Thanks, Stephen.
Thursday is the day my provider emptys the mailboxes, and I would hate to
lose mail because of multiple copies of this.
Life just continues to excite, doesn't it?
Marsha (hoping to have real mail tomorrow) in Milwaukee
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:32:08 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11339]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Undeliverable Mail [11336]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:25 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:32 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:42:18 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11340]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Undeliverable Mail [11333]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:35 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:42 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:50:55 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11341]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11338]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:43 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 5:50 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:00:21 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11342]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Undeliverable Mail [11337]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:53 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:00 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:08:12 -0600 (MDT)
From: John Woolley
Subject: Re: Ingoldsby's "The spectre of Tappington" [11309] [11311] [11343]
Stephen asks about:
> the Bombay Fencibles
Fencibles are troops raised locally (in this case, in Bombay)
for home defense.
> the widow's eye-glass turned from her cicisbeo's whiskers
> to the mantling ivy:
A cicisbeo normally is an "admirer" of a married woman.
(Married to someone else, that is!) Here, it seems to be
extended to include the admirer of a widow.
> per saltum sufflatum, et pettem;
The enthusiastic (but ignorant!) antiquary Simpkinson is
referring to some kind of feudal tenure -- he's quoting
"Blount's `Jocular Tenures'", after all -- but he has it wrong
somehow. Tenure "per saltum et sufflatum" might well be
explained, as here, as an obligation (in exchange for the
holding of one's fief) to "take a leap and cry hem!"; but
"pettem" isn't Latin, and I can't think what it's meant to be a
mistake for.
> Omne ignotum pro magnifico!
"Entirely unknown for something splendid" -- that is, of a
(heretofore) unexperienced degree of gaudiness.
> like a female Chrononotonthologos,
A "chrononotary" would be an annalist, an historian. So ... a
student of history?
> Seaforth profited by the confusion to take the delinquent
> who had caused this ???stramash??? by the arm, and to lead
> him to the lawn, where he had a word or two for his private
> ear.
"Stramash" is Scotch for a to-do, a brew-up, an affray.
> in rerum natura = In the natural state?
"In the nature of things", certainly, but I don't understand
the phrase in context in the story.
> Dodecandria Monogynia
A joke. The "dodecandria" and "monogynia" are classes (not,
as implied here, genera and species) of plants; the words mean
"twelve men" and "one woman" in Greek, and refer to the count
of the plants', ah, generative organs.
-- Fr. John
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:20:32 -0400
From: AC Mail
Subject: Undeliverable Mail [11344]
Unknown Microsoft mail form. Approximate representation follows.
Message: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335]
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 7:13 PM
To: Demers.Susan
On Server: CL Mail
Date: Wed, Apr 23, 1997 6:20 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server
could not be reached.
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:14:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Idys W. Cox"
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11345]
Stephen,
I'm remined of the statement by a non-gaslight humorest:
"If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?"
--Will Rogers
Thanks for your efforts.
Waynne Cox
On
Wed, 23 Apr 1997, STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE wrote:
> Marsha,
> we have a mail loop on the go, which I have been
> trying to stop since for a couple of hours. A listmember
> in Florida has an improperly set mail account, whereby
> e-mail errors are returned to the sender instead of to
> to the error address. Each returned error message
> becomes a post itself, and so the cycle continues.
> I believe I have identified the Gaslight acct
> which needs to be unsubbed in order to stop this loop,
> but the Mount Royal College VAX is slow to process
> my commands. It's been about half an hour since I
> found the correct address and asked the computer to stop
> the insanity.
>
> I have also written to the offending postmaster
> who is responsible for the incorrect setup of the e-mail
> program in Florida.
>
> Stephen "Quickdraw" D
> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diane Dobson
Subject: Re: Multiple misdirected mail [11331] [11335] [11346]
We all thank you - This posting was driving us mad
Have an accessible day !
Diane
aa321(at)freenet.victoria.bc.ca
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:15:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: "p.h.wood"
Subject: Re: Ingoldsby's "The spectre of Tappington" [11309] [11311] [11343]
[11347]
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, John Woolley wrote:
> Stephen asks about:
>
> deleted
>
> > per saltum sufflatum, et pettem;
>
> The enthusiastic (but ignorant!) antiquary Simpkinson is
> referring to some kind of feudal tenure -- he's quoting
> "Blount's `Jocular Tenures'", after all -- but he has it wrong
> somehow. Tenure "per saltum et sufflatum" might well be
> explained, as here, as an obligation (in exchange for the
> holding of one's fief) to "take a leap and cry hem!"; but
> "pettem" isn't Latin, and I can't think what it's meant to be a
> mistake for.
For enlightenment, consult Rabelais' "Gargantua & Pantagruel" Bk.V,
Ch. 7, where the wholly disreputable Panurge is describing the activities
of a donkey when threatened with a beating. "Pettem" is possibly the Latin
origin of the French expression "lacher un pet" - to break wind anally.
A typical example of Victorian bawdry.
Peter Wood
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:38:00 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: Kipling links [11306] [11307] [11348]
At 05:14 PM 4/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
> In January of this year, or so, Jack Kolb forwarded a post
> to ELCS-L about some Kipling letters going up for
> auction. I've always wondered what they ultimately
> fetched.
> Stephen D
> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
>
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:38:43 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: Kipling links [11306] [11307] [11349]
> In January of this year, or so, Jack Kolb forwarded a post
> to ELCS-L about some Kipling letters going up for
> auction. I've always wondered what they ultimately
> fetched.
> Stephen D
> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
Alas, Stephen, I've heard nothing more about them. I'll try to inquire.
Cheers, Jack
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:31:35 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: What is "porching" or "church-porching"? [11317] [11350]
It took some scouring, but I found the phrase "porching"
again in Bleiler's _Guide to supernatural fiction_ (1983).
It is not a subheading, and not strictly about ghosts as I
had thought. The entry reads thus:
DEATH WATCH. (A folkloristic belief that the
spirits of those due to die within the next
year will be seen at a certain time and place--
usually the church. In England called porching
or church-porching.)
I see in a dictionary that a "porch" may be a side-chapel
or transept.
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:52:55 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Saki by your bedside (also O.Henry and Howard Hawks) [11351]
The Canadian Bravo channel will be airing _Quartet_ (1948)
tomorrow, which includes one of my all-time favourite segments:
it's the Maugham short story "The facts of life", with Basil
Radford and Naunton Wayne (for once not talking about cricket).
Another segment has Ernest Thesiger (the man who offered
Frankenstein's monster a cigar).
The Bravo programmer follows this anthology with another, _Trio_
(1950), making something of a Maugham-fest. _Halliwell's_
has obviously been consulted because the anthology theme
continues with a movie I've never heard of before, _O. Henry's
Full House_ (1952). According to our late film critic, this
flick was spawned by the success of the Maugham ventures.
The five stories here will be "The cop and the anthem"
with Charles Laughton and Marilyn Monroe, "The clarion
call", "The last leaf", "The ransom of Red Chief" in which
Howard Hawks directs the humiliation of Fred Allen and
Oscar Levant, and "The gift of the magi".
When first reading Saki, eons ago, I came across an endorsement
to the effect that any good host would be sure to have a volume
of either Saki or O. Henry by their guest's bed. I can't
remember to whom this compliment was attributed, and whether
it was attributed incorrectly as I am suspecting, but I have
come across the original.
Upon dipping once again into E.V. Lucas, I find in an essay
on "The perfect guest" (1920), that he concludes by noting
some things the perfect hostess could do to comfort her
guest (with the hope of inciting a reciprocal grace on their
part). It reads:
She also places by the bed biscuits, matches, and
a volume either of O. Henry of "Saki," or both.
I can only hope the matches were for a candle.
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
(End of Gaslight digest)