Gaslight digest of discussion from 97-apr-14 to 97-apr-15
----------------------------THE HEADERS---------------------------
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:45:47 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Jerome's first "Stage" book [11215]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:50:20 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Unanswered question #2: Hindu script? [11216]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:11:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: "The Purple Emperor" [11217]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:31:01 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Titanic? [11209] [11218]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:50:01 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:55:38 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Gaslight reading schedule for 1997-April/May [11210] [11212]
[11220]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:47:52 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: "The Purple Emperor" [11217] [11221]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:54:19 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Tenney
Subject: Re: Jerome's first "Stage" book [11215] [11223]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:59:18 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: Gaslight reading schedule for 1997-April/May [11210] [11212]
[11220] [11224]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:44:39 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Gaslight reading schedule for 1997-April/May [11210] [11212]
[11220] [11224] [11225]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:45:59 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Call for Papers: The Uncanny (D/L May 1) (fwd) [11226]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:21:56 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: M.R. James remembered by Anstey [11227]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:21:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Dick Darrel's butterfly [11228]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:27:56 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:52:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Discovery Channel on the Titanic [11230]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "linda j. holland-toll"
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
[11231]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:20:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan Gullette
Subject: "The Weird" [11232]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:39:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jo Churcher
Subject: CHAT: NEW MAILING LIST FOR POETRY [11233]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:12:17 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: graverobber story [11234]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:12:56 -0700 (MST)
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by MtRoyal.AB.CA
From: Moudry
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
[11235]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: "linda j. holland-toll"
Subject: Re: graverobber story [11234] [11236]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:36:49 -0600
From: gmc(at)gemini.pvh.org (Carlson Jerry M)
Subject: [11237]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:07:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Debah(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Dick Darrel's butterfly [11228] [11238]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:10:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Apatura Iris [11239]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:02:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Xenia Warrior Princess Meets Gilbert & Sullivan [11240]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:46:30 -0700
From: markin(at)patriot.net
Subject: Re: Apatura Iris [11239] [11241]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:09:12 -0500
From: "S.T. Karnick"
Subject: Re: Xenia Warrior Princess Meets Gilbert & Sullivan [11240] [11242]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:47:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: re: Apatura iris [11239] [11241] [11243]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:14:20 -0500
From: "Marsha J. Valance"
Subject: Re: Apatura Iris [11239] [11241] [11244]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:51:11 -0700
From: Jeff Sargent
Subject: Re: Apatura iris [11243] [infinity] [11245]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:40:47 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Apatura Iris [11239] [11241] [11246]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:58:29 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: graverobber story [11234] [11236] [11247]
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:00:16 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
[11235] [11248]
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:05:22 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: graverobber story [11234] [11236] [11247] [11249]
-----------------------------THE POSTS-----------------------------
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:45:47 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Jerome's first "Stage" book [11215]
There is currently a problem with accessing the Gaslight
webversion of _Stage-land_ (1889) which I hope to have
resolved this afternoon.
As interesting as I found _Stage-land_ to be when I first
read it three years ago (I think at Eugene O.'s urging),
I am finding my current "read" to be even more interesting.
_On the stage -- and off_ (1885) is a compilation of articles
written by Jerome during his journalistic (post-acting) days
and first printed in _The play_, a magazine.
Far less facetious, but immensely humourous, these articles
strung together form an autobiographical volume, covering
Jerome's first being stagestruck to his quitting the boards
for good. The full title of the book is _On the stage --
and off: the brief career of a would-be actor_.
As a book, these pieces were Jerome's first writing success.
They helped him place more of his writing in other magazines
which, altho ignored at the time, were collected as books
themselves becoming great sellers like _Idle thoughts of an
idle fellow_ (1886), and _Stage-land_. The local university
library has a small book called _Playwriting_ (1888) which has
been attributed to Jerome. Perhaps it bears looking into,
altho Jerome's great successes as a playwright still lay
ahead of him.
My copy of _On the stage -- and off_ is a modern edition
(1991/Pub: Alan Sutton) in which the text has been reset,
but the original illustrations by Kenneth M. Skeaping
have been retained. In fact, the illustrations have been
amplified by archival material showing other aspects of the
contemporary theatre.
Jerome never made it to the big-time as an actor. His tale
is the underpaid/rarely paid vagaries of a neophyte who
progresses to a competent but tired old-hand. The process
of finding a berth, mounting a production, and life in the
wings is as fascinatingly, revealingly and ironically
detailed as a fan of the theatre or of Jerome could hope.
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:50:20 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Unanswered question #2: Hindu script? [11216]
I have mounted another "Unanswered question" on the Gaslight
website. The previous question about a R.L. Stevenson stamp
has only generated one suggestion, that from Kiwi.
The new question is my attempt to find out what an unfamiliar
script on the front cover of a book might say. The book is
Sir Richard Burton's _Vikram the vampire, and tales of Hindu
devilry_ (1889). Is the script Hindu? if so, what does it say?
Any help would be appreciated.
The "Unanswered questions" are listed under the "More about
Gaslight" section of the website at:
www.mtroyal.ab.ca/programs/arts/english/gaslight
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:11:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: "The Purple Emperor" [11217]
"The Purple Emperor" is one of these rare stories that make me say, almost
aloud, Gee, I wish I could have written this! I was impressed by everything:
the ingenuity of the plot, the very real humor, the tragicomic characters, the
romantic setting (and the fact that we actually have a love story in a
detective yarn), the very fine writing style.
Why isn't this guy Chambers better known?
What I really enjoyed was the irony of the tale--that something as
beautiful and innocent as the butterfly could be responsible for so much
human ugliness. Or is that irony? Perhaps it is one of the commonest
situations of the human dilemma. For example, does the pursuit of the
fair Lys by Yves Terrec and our American narrator, Dick Darrel, in any way
mirror the larger story? Not so obviously. But I can't help but think that
Darrel took more pleasure than he should have when he attacked Terrec in
order to save the Red Admiral's life. And of course right to the end, he tries
(with success) to convince others that Terrec is the real murderer-even
though he knows that the one bit of evidence implicating Terrec,
the red straw, is a red herring.
Despite this situation, I liked, very much, the free and easy way of
the Bretons. I really hope that this was what the Bretons were like, and
still might be. Of course, they are peasants, and Monsieur Darrel is, for
reasons not quite clear to me, very well respected in Morbihan (except,
of course, by the Purple Emperor). But they are open in their feelings and,
even when on the trail of a murderer, not so anxious to believe the worst
of someone. One could argue, at this point, that they are merely stupid.
Certainly their willingness to accommodate Darrel, even to the point of
locking him up in the house of the Red Admiral after the latter's murder,
indicates that things in Morbihan are not quite done by the book. No
doubt in other places, this would have been considered bad form After all,
what better situation could a perpetrator hope for than to be confined to
the crime scene, where he has unlimited chances to destroy evidence? Yet
murder seems to be so outside the purview of the villagers that this
possibility doesn't even occur to them. Are we confronted here
not so much by stupidity as by trusting souls--essentially good people?
Obviously Chambers plays all this for comedy, yet I wonder if we aren't
supposed to regret our own wisdom a little. Is comedy only possible in a
fallen world?
Bob Champ (who can also be reached at a new UMUC address:
rchamp(at)polaris.umuc.edu
which will become permanent as soon as I
figure out how the system works!)
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:31:01 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Titanic? [11209] [11218]
Robert Champ wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the exact time, EST, that the Discovery Channel special on
> the Titanic will be show this Sunday?
>
> Bob Champ
> rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
Did you try:
http://www.discovery.com/
Sherlene
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:50:01 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219]
Jack Kolb wrote:
>
> Isn't this a Stevenson story? Or is it Dylan Thomas's work? I promise to
> acknowledge any and all respondents. Thanks to this blearied person, who is
> trying to finish four articles. Jack.
>
> Jack Kolb
> Dept. of English, UCLA
> kolb(at)ucla.edu
>
Debah(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/11/97 11:50:44 PM, you wrote:
>
> >Weird stories of the American South
> > 05 Ellen Glasgow's "Her past" (1920)
> > 12 Kate Chopin's "The letters" (1895)
> > 19 John Bennett's "Remember service"
> > (All prepared by Deborah McMillion)
>
> Corrections on Stephen's list, with regards to his poor knees: it is Ellen
> Glasgow's "The Past" and Kate Chopin's "Her Letters". Thanks.
>
> Deborah McMillion
By wierd, do you mean macabre?
smats(at)hypercon.com
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:47:52 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: "The Purple Emperor" [11217] [11221]
Bob C.,
I think Dick Darrel is zealous in fighting Terrec
because of his (so far) unexpressed feelings for Lys, whom
Terrec has threatened.
Stephen
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:54:19 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222]
I've lost track of who sent this originally. Was it Jack?
> Do any of you have the
> >> facts on this news item?
> >
> >Michelangelo and Da Vinci used to purchase corpses to study
> >musculature for their sculptures. The practice was
> >completely illegal at the time, but produced some of the
> >world's most historic works. They employed graverobbers.
But it wasn't illegal for da Vinci and Michelangelo because
the church gave dispensation to artists and medical
practitioners to dissect, so long as the seperated body
parts were collected together in time for burial.
There was a report on this on CBC radio because of the
national museums restropective of dissection pieces by
great artists (mostly housed in medical universities,
not art museums).
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Tenney
Subject: Re: Jerome's first "Stage" book [11215] [11223]
*On the Stage--and Off* has been remaindered; I picked up a copy of the
English edition (marked about L15) for around $7 in the San Francisco
area. Stephen is right: it is a treat! And maybe worth looking for in
cutout bins etc.
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:59:18 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: Gaslight reading schedule for 1997-April/May [11210] [11212]
[11220] [11224]
Sherlene,
I use Weird only in the sense that the stories are
not adventure nor mystery. "The Weird" might easily include
macabre for our purposes. I would have to ask Deborah Mc. to
comment on the nature of these stories since she is only
one who has read them so far. Knowing Deborah, however,
I would expect these stories to be ghostly.
I prefer the older use of the term "mystery" which
would have included what we are calling "The Weird". I am
afraid that I had to force "The Weird" into a term for what
we now separate as supernatural from unknown facts (what we
call "mystery".)
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 18:44:39 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Gaslight reading schedule for 1997-April/May [11210] [11212]
[11220] [11224] [11225]
STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE wrote:
>
> Sherlene,
> I use Weird only in the sense that the stories are
> not adventure nor mystery. "The Weird" might easily include
> macabre for our purposes. I would have to ask Deborah Mc. to
> comment on the nature of these stories since she is only
> one who has read them so far. Knowing Deborah, however,
> I would expect these stories to be ghostly.
> I prefer the older use of the term "mystery" which
> would have included what we are calling "The Weird". I am
> afraid that I had to force "The Weird" into a term for what
> we now separate as supernatural from unknown facts (what we
> call "mystery".)
>
> Stephen D
> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
Thank you for your quick response and may I say, "I simply love a good
mystery!" The supernatural holds little interest to me, but I do
cherish romance. Yes, I can tell by the artist's (D. Mc) work that she
has a macabre steak that runs deep.
Sherlene
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:45:59 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Call for Papers: The Uncanny (D/L May 1) (fwd) [11226]
I do hope it is quite alright to return to past subjects. It would
appear to be so, therefore, I simply could not resist the following:
Here's to The Fellow
Here*s to the certain reprobate old Fellow of King*s College,
Though long dead, let him here be acknowledged.
Whom ner lost his zest, poked his stick at the little pests.
Through the quad he let ring, to little worms he would sing,
"Blast ye! Ye haven*t got me yet!"
Pardon the poor grammer and punctuation, it came to so suddenly.
Sherlene
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:21:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Dick Darrel's butterfly [11228]
Stephen writes:
> Bob C.,
> I think Dick Darrel is zealous in fighting Terrec
> because of his (so far) unexpressed feelings for Lys, whom
> Terrec has threatened.
Granted. This is part of my suggestion: the beautiful Lys is
the innocent cause of the battle between Dick Darrel and Yves
Terrec just as the beautiful butterfly is the innocent cause of
the strife between the Purple Emperor and the Red Admiral. In
both cases, the beautiful rouses up not only feelings of admiration
but also, let us say, of possessiveness, that end in violence.
Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:27:56 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
'Twas I, Stephen. But everyone here has commented on everything about the
post except my question: who wrote the story (about the doctor who employed
unscrupulous grave robbers for his dissection specimens and ended up--since
these robbers decided to harvest their victims before death--faced with his
own wife)? I know there's a story; it's been dramatized several times.
Thanks again, in advance. Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
> I've lost track of who sent this originally. Was it Jack?
>
>> Do any of you have the
>> >> facts on this news item?
>> >
>> >Michelangelo and Da Vinci used to purchase corpses to study
>> >musculature for their sculptures. The practice was
>> >completely illegal at the time, but produced some of the
>> >world's most historic works. They employed graverobbers.
>
> But it wasn't illegal for da Vinci and Michelangelo because
> the church gave dispensation to artists and medical
> practitioners to dissect, so long as the seperated body
> parts were collected together in time for burial.
>
> There was a report on this on CBC radio because of the
> national museums restropective of dissection pieces by
> great artists (mostly housed in medical universities,
> not art museums).
> Stephen D
> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
>
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:52:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Discovery Channel on the Titanic [11230]
The Discovery Channel's "Titanic: Anatomy of a Disaster" was an
intriguing look at the scientific reasons for the Titanic's sinking-
or at least at the new theories that have come to the fore, some of
them confirming ideas put forth immediately following the disaster
but rejected or ignored by investigating authorities of the time.
Perhaps the most startling of the new theories--which have the
advantage of scientific investigation behind them--is that the Titanic
did not receive a three hundred yard gash in the collision with
the iceberg--the long reported story; rather, the entire damage was
only about twelve square feet. This was discovered through computer
enhanced imaging-the images being created by sonar waves, which
could "see" through the mud in which the affected parts are submerged.
This relatively small amount of damage was sufficient to sink her, however,
because the water poured into the ship's bulkhead compartments at varying
rates, though rapidly enough that nothing could be done to stop it
and repair the damage. The ship, in fact, took on water at a frightening
rate, a situation the Titanic was simply not designed to withstand.
The myth of her unsinkability had much more to do with her double
hull than with her ability to keep afloat under flooding conditions.
Not surprisingly, the huge amount of water the Titanic took on created
enormous pressure on the ship (remember that only one end of her was
filled with water, creating a huge imbalance in the amount of stress).
In part, she sank; but while still on the surface and just before going down ,
she broke in two. The reason, according to the scientists on the program,
is twofold-first, as just stated, the ship was not constructed to withstand
the great pressure; second, her steel structure was filled with sulfide
impurities that considerably weakened her ability to withstand this pressure.
(At the time she was built, it should be noted, no one was aware of the
effect of these impurities; indeed, they seemed to be unaware of them.)
Moreover, the steel in this state was made even weaker by the cold
temperature of the water on that fateful night. One group of scientists
tested a piece of steel salvaged from the wreck by freezing it to the same
temperature--then subjecting it to a sudden blow, such as might have been
delivered by striking an iceberg. The steel shattered easily. It might have
been so much breaking glass. This helped confirm for scientists the reason
behind survivor accounts that told of awful noises coming from the ship as
she was going down.
Another scientist conducted biological experiments on the wreck, hoping
to assess her status after 85 years of subjection to microorganisms.
He discovered that she was infested with a microorganic "universe" and that
she is slowly being eaten away. (Yes, there do indeed seem to be
extremely small creatures that happily chomp away on metal.) His estimate
was that 20 percent of the vessel has disappeared as a result and that
her ultimate destiny will be simply to collapse of her own weight once
enough of her has been consumed.
The show presented two pieces of information that were new to me. First,
there were not insufficient lifeboats to have saved an appreciable number of
the passengers; the lifeboats, however, left the ship far under their carrying
capacity--more passengers could have gotten into those boats. Second,
we often hear that 1500 souls went down with the ship. In fact, most of
those on board had reached the uppermost deck by the time she sank; they died
due to exposure to the frigid water, many of their bodies then being washed
out to sea. The number of people who actually went down with the Titanic
was something on the order of 330, the greater part of them crewmen.
This expedition was undertaken by the Discovery Channel itself; it was also
the first expedition to produce an "archeological map" of the Titanic and to
do any in-depth scientific investigation of her. The human side of the
Titanic disaster is largely missing, but at least we now seem to be much closer
to understanding why so many people died.
Bob Champ (who invites any corrections to the above)
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "linda j. holland-toll"
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
[11231]
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Jack Kolb wrote:
> 'Twas I, Stephen. But everyone here has commented on everything about the
> post except my question: who wrote the story (about the doctor who employed
> unscrupulous grave robbers for his dissection specimens and ended up--since
> these robbers decided to harvest their victims before death--faced with his
> own wife)? I know there's a story; it's been dramatized several times.
>
> Thanks again, in advance. Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
>
>
> > I've lost track of who sent this originally. Was it Jack?
> >
> >> Do any of you have the
> >> >> facts on this news item?
> >> >
> >> >Michelangelo and Da Vinci used to purchase corpses to study
> >> >musculature for their sculptures. The practice was
> >> >completely illegal at the time, but produced some of the
> >> >world's most historic works. They employed graverobbers.
> >
> > But it wasn't illegal for da Vinci and Michelangelo because
> > the church gave dispensation to artists and medical
> > practitioners to dissect, so long as the seperated body
> > parts were collected together in time for burial.
> >
> > There was a report on this on CBC radio because of the
> > national museums restropective of dissection pieces by
> > great artists (mostly housed in medical universities,
> > not art museums).
> > Stephen D
> > SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
>
Jack--
Was the story Stevenson's "The Body Snatchers," by any chance??
linda
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:20:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan Gullette
Subject: "The Weird" [11232]
At 04:59 PM 4/14/97 -0700, Stephen D wrote:
> I use Weird only in the sense that the stories are
> not adventure nor mystery. "The Weird" might easily include
> macabre for our purposes. I would have to ask Deborah Mc. to
> comment on the nature of these stories since she is only
> one who has read them so far. Knowing Deborah, however,
> I would expect these stories to be ghostly.
> I prefer the older use of the term "mystery" which
> would have included what we are calling "The Weird". I am
> afraid that I had to force "The Weird" into a term for what
> we now separate as supernatural from unknown facts (what we
> call "mystery".)
Characterizing "weird" literature as "supernatural" may serve to
distinguish it from "mystery", but it is obviously inaccurate -- insofar
as some "weird" literature is non-supernatural! Of course, it will *often*
raise metaphysical questions about whether or not a supernatural factor
is present in the story, but it *may* answer the questions negatively --
or, as a tease, leave a little doubt in the mind of the reader. (James's
"The Turn of the Screw" is the perfect example -- is there a supernatural
element or not? We are given plenty of evidence either way. It is almost
as if James's purpose is to raise the question of reality itself in light
of the deformative power of the mind, fueled by fear, doubt, protection,
etc.)
It is really quite difficult to define "the weird" in an inclusive
way, since it includes aspects of several genres, including horror,
fantasy, science fiction, and even mystery. What is important is the idea --
and concomitant *feeling* -- that something is amiss, that the foundations
of reality have just dropped out from under you, that everything you
thought was so . . . may not be so, or *is* not so. It involves a
fluke or freak of nature, or a raising of a curtain to reveal another
realm *beyond* nature -- or what we think of as nature: the "supernatural."
But even the word "supernatural" is inadequate; I mean, if the ghost
exists, it's natural, not supernatural! The alternative "super-normal"
is more tolerant of what may be out there that we haven't discovered
yet. In the same way, yesterday's "science fiction" is today's fact.
In all cases questions are being raised about the limits of knowledge
and existence, and giving free play to the imagination (not a carte blanc
but within reasonable limits -- mustn't un-suspend disbelief!).
"Metaphysical", by the way, has the drawback of implying something beyond
the physical, though the term originated with Aristotle only due to the
placement of a philosophical work *after* a study of "physics" (i.e.,
natural science). More rigorous would be to use "ontology" and
"epistemology" and throw out "metaphysics" as a historical mistake.
Well, obviously my own thoughts on the matter are incompletely formed,
(as distinct frm "completely unformed"!) but the situation *is* a rather
paradoxical one. Definition requires the analysis of a mystery, in
the course of which all sense of mystery is shattered. In other words,
if you start pulling on loose threads you're likely to unravel the whole
ball of yarn (no pun intended!), to say nothing of the Gordian knot (not!).
I think I've been working on my taxes too long. . . . .
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:39:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jo Churcher
Subject: CHAT: NEW MAILING LIST FOR POETRY [11233]
At the beginning of March I started a majordomo mailing list for the
informal sharing and discussion of favourite poems. Borrowing a leaf from
Gaslight's book, we are working on a different theme each week. This week
the theme is "Friendship"; next week it will be "The Effects of Time,"
and, starting on April 28th, "Remembering Home." We also feature a "Poet
of the Month," the poet being one whose birth date is within that month.
For April it's Shakespeare. I should here say a special "thank you" to
Bob Champ, whose "Literary Gazette" from a couple of years ago provided me
with lots of birth dates which I might otherwise have had to scramble
around to find.
If you would be interested in joining the list, send mail to
majordomo(at)it.ca and leave the subject line blank. In the body of the
message type the single line "subscribe pod-l" (without the quotes. If
for some reason this doesn't work for you, just let me know, and I'll sign
you up.
Cheers!
Jo
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:12:17 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: graverobber story [11234]
> Was the story Stevenson's "The Body Snatchers," by any chance??
>linda
That sounds right, Linda. Alas, I don't have a copy handy. Additional info
would be most helpful. Cheers, Jack.
Jack Kolb
Dept. of English, UCLA
kolb(at)ucla.edu
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:12:56 -0700 (MST)
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by MtRoyal.AB.CA
From: Moudry
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
[11235]
R.L. Stevenson wrote the short story, and Boris Karloff played in the
classic film version (not totally faithful to the story, but worth a watch
ne'ertheless).
Moudry
At 19:27 14/4/97 -0700, Jack Kolb wrote:
>'Twas I, Stephen. But everyone here has commented on everything about the
>post except my question: who wrote the story (about the doctor who employed
>unscrupulous grave robbers for his dissection specimens and ended up--since
>these robbers decided to harvest their victims before death--faced with his
>own wife)? I know there's a story; it's been dramatized several times.
>
>Thanks again, in advance. Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
>
>
>> I've lost track of who sent this originally. Was it Jack?
>>
>>> Do any of you have the
>>> >> facts on this news item?
>>> >
>>> >Michelangelo and Da Vinci used to purchase corpses to study
>>> >musculature for their sculptures. The practice was
>>> >completely illegal at the time, but produced some of the
>>> >world's most historic works. They employed graverobbers.
>>
>> But it wasn't illegal for da Vinci and Michelangelo because
>> the church gave dispensation to artists and medical
>> practitioners to dissect, so long as the seperated body
>> parts were collected together in time for burial.
>>
>> There was a report on this on CBC radio because of the
>> national museums restropective of dissection pieces by
>> great artists (mostly housed in medical universities,
>> not art museums).
>> Stephen D
>> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
>>
>>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: "linda j. holland-toll"
Subject: Re: graverobber story [11234] [11236]
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Jack Kolb wrote:
> > Was the story Stevenson's "The Body Snatchers," by any chance??
> >linda
>
> That sounds right, Linda. Alas, I don't have a copy handy. Additional info
> would be most helpful. Cheers, Jack.
>
>
>
> Jack Kolb
> Dept. of English, UCLA
> kolb(at)ucla.edu
>
Dear Jack-
Well, the ending to this story does not have the doctor confronted
with his dead wife, but the two body snatchers, who have supposedly
snagged a farmer's wife confronted with a previous snatching -
i have it in the Penguin Book of Hooror Stories - the one with J.>
Cuddon's excellent introduction (ISBN 0-14-006799-x) Penguin, 1984."The
Body Snatcher"
Fettes - old drunk called "The Doctor"
Wolfe Macfarlane - the actual doctor
the undertaker
the narrator
Basically, the plot is that Fettes, now an old drunk, was a rising
medical student; McFarlane an unscrupulous dr., Mr. K, an unscrupulous
professor of anatomy -
Fettes discovers that the bodies come from murder; macfarlane murders
someone who knows too much about him and implicates Fettes; when they go
to get a farmer's wife, it turns out to be meFarlane's murder victim
. stevenson leaves open how the transformation was effected....
hope this helps - linda
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:36:49 -0600
From: gmc(at)gemini.pvh.org (Carlson Jerry M)
Subject: [11237]
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->--To: gaslight(at)MtRoyal.AB.CA
->--From: gmc(at)gemini.pvh.org
->--Subject: Speaking of the Titanic
->-->From: gmc(at)gemini.pvh.org
->Titanic fans may want to turn their browsers to
->http://www.denverpost.com/empire/feature.htm this week. One of the
->feature articles in Sunday's Denver Post Empire Magazine (available
->online at that address) is entitled "Remembering Molly", about
->"unsinkable" local heroine Margaret Tobin Brown, and focusing on her
->cruise on, then off, the Titanic. The online version of the article
->also provides links to the Molly Brown House Museum, Titanic Live
->Online, and Titanic websites. Act fast - the next issue will replace
->this one next Sunday.
->
->( _ Pierrot
-> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMnVn aka Jerry Carlson
-> ^ ^ gmc(at)gemini.pvh.org
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:07:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Debah(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Dick Darrel's butterfly [11228] [11238]
I have not had a chance to read this story but I wished to mention in case
the story doesn't that the Purple Emperor butterfly (male) feeds on animal
carrion. Small bit of butterfly trivia.
Deborah McMillion
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:10:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Apatura Iris [11239]
To get a get look at the spectacular "Purple Emperor" butterfly (Apatura
iris), go to this URL:
http://monolith.yawc.net/~johan/butterfl/gallery/maier/iris1.jpg
It really is quite beautiful and will give you a clear idea of what all
the fuss is about in Chambers's story.
Btw, I've been trying to find some information on "cythyl" or "cythaline,"
the chemical the Red Admiral sent away for because of its wonderful
properties of attraction. So far I've come up empty-handed, and am wondering
if it was not something that Chambers made up. Is there a chemist in the
house? (I'll bet our "nosy" old friend James Huneker would be interested
in this cythyl stuff .)
Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:02:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: Xenia Warrior Princess Meets Gilbert & Sullivan [11240]
Gaslighters,
We have made mention of Xenia the Warrior Princess here once or twice.
Now a Latin-crazed friend of mine sent me a post in which a clever lad
from that great institution of classical learning, UniChi, has
reconstructed Xenia as the hero of a Gilbert & Sullivan
operetta. I've actually never seen the Xenia program, but I'm fond enough of
G & S to think highly of this parody of W.S. Gilbert's lyric writing.
For some reason, we've never really discussed G & S on Gaslight. Perhaps
we can start up a thread on the two one of these days.
Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
Okay, okay, so "Xena" and "Hercules" aren't high-culture, but this was
forwarded to me and I thought it was pretty funny, especially if you've
ever caught the show. (One week Xena may be fighting in the Trojan
War, the next week, she's flirting with Caesar. Go figure! But the
villains do have cool names like Mezentius and there are heroes named
Sarpedon and Meleager!)
The original author is Kevin Wald. This is posted to Latin-L with his
permission.
From: Kevin Wald
=======================================================================
Greetings. A while back, Democratus attempted to bring some "high culture"
to the Xena parody genre, with his wonderful production of _Romeo and Xena_.
In a similar spirit, I now present an excerpt from Gilbert and Sullivan's
little-known operetta, _Xena; or, The Warrior Princess_. (This excerpt is
from an annotated edition; please don't let the occasional scholarly
footnotes, in the form of bracketed numbers, interfere with your enjoyment
of Gilbert's unique lyrical style.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[We join our operetta already in progress. The infamous Pirates of Pergamum
have just seized a bevy of beautiful Mytilenean maidens, and are attempting
to carry them off for matrimonial purposes. Gabrielle intervenes, with a
recitative (well, it's better than a pan flute solo):]
Gabrielle: Hold, scoundrels! Ere ye practice acts of villainy
Upon the peaceful and agrarian,
Just bear in mind, these maidens of My-TIL-ene[1]
Are guarded by a buff barbarian!
Pirates: We'd better all rethink our cunning plan;
They're guarded by a buff barbarian.
Maidens: Yes, yes, she is a buff barbarian.
[Xena leaps in from the wings, with a tremendous war cry, does a mid-air
somersault, and lands on her feet on the Pirate King's chest.]
Xena: Yes, yes, I am a buff barbarian! [The orchestra starts up.]
I am the very model of a heroine barbarian;
Through Herculean efforts, I've become humanitarian.
I ride throughout the hinterland -- at least that's what they call it in
Those sissy towns like Athens (I, myself, am Amphipolitan).
I travel with a poet who is perky and parthenian[2]
And scribbles her hexameters in Linear Mycenian[3]
(And many have attempted, by a host of methods mystical,
To tell if our relationship's sororal or sapphistical).
Chorus: To tell if their relationship's sororal or sapphistical!
To tell if their relationship's sororal or sapphistical!
To tell if their relationship's sororal or sapphisti-phistical!
Xena: My armory is brazen, but my weapons are ironical;
My sword is rather phallic, but my chakram's rather yonical[4]
(To find out what that means, you'll have to study Indo-Aryan[5]).
I am the very model of a heroine barbarian!
Chorus: To find out what that means, we'll have to study Indo-Aryan --
She is the very model of a heroine barbarian!
Xena: I wake up every morning, ere the dawn is rhododactylous[6]
(Who needs to wait for daylight? I just work by _sensus tactilis_[7].)
And ride into the sunrise to protect some local villagers
From mythologic monsters or from all-too-human pillagers.
I hurtle towards each villain with a recklessness ebullient
And cow him with my swordwork and my alalaes ululient[8];
He's frightened for his head, because he knows I'm gonna whack it -- he's
Aware that his opponent is the _Basileia Makhetes_!
[The music crashes to a halt, as the Chorus stares at Xena in utter
confusion. She sighs.] It's *Greek*. It means "Warrior Princess"!
[Light dawns on the Chorus, and the music resumes.] Sheesh . . .
Chorus: He knows that his opponent is the _Basileia Makhetes_!
He knows that his opponent is the _Basileia Makhetes_!
He knows that his opponent is the _Basileia Makhe-makhetes_,
Xena: Because I've got my armor, which is really rather silly, on
(It's cut so low I feel like I'm the topless tow'rs of Ilion,
And isn't any use against attackers sagittarian[9]).
I am the very model of a heroine barbarian!
Chorus: It isn't any use against attackers sagittarian --
She is the very model of a heroine barbarian!
Xena: In short, when I can tell you how I break the laws of gravity,
And why my togs expose my intermammary concavity,
And why my comrade changed her dress from one that fit more comfily
To one that shows her omphalos[10] (as cute as that of Omphale[11]),
And why the tale of Spartacus appears in Homer's versicon[12],
[She holds up a tomato:]
And where we found examples of the genus _Lycopersicon_[13],
And why this Grecian scenery looks more like the Antipodes,
You'll say I'm twice the heroine of any in Euripides!
Chorus: We'll say she's twice the heroine of any in Euripides!
We'll say she's twice the heroine of any in Euripides!
We'll say she's twice the heroine of any in Euripi-ripides!
Xena: But though the kinked chronology, confusing and chimerical
(It's often unhistorical, but rarely unhysterical),
Would give a massive heart attack to any antiquarian,
I am the very model of a heroine barbarian!
Chorus: 'Twould give a massive heart attack to any antiquarian --
She is the very model of a heroine barbarian!
[As the orchestra plays the final chords, a wild Xenaesque melee ensues,
and the curtain has to be brought down.]
Notes:
[1] Actually, "Mytilene" would properly be accented on the third syllable;
Gabrielle always did have trouble with rhymes. (Mytilene, incidentally,
is a city on the isle of Lesbos -- the hometown of the poet Sappho, as
a matter of fact. It is not clear what, if anything, Gilbert is trying
to imply here.)
[2] parthenian: virginal.
[3] Linear Mycenian: Mycenian is the ancient dialect of Greek which was
written in Linear B (a form of Greek writing that predates the adoption
of the alphabet). The implication is that Gabrielle does her writing
in Linear B; if _Xena_ takes place around the time of the Trojan war,
this is chronologically reasonable.
[4] yonical: "Yonic" is the female counterpart to "phallic".
[5] Indo-Aryan: The language group consisting of Sanskrit and its close
relatives. Both "chakram" and "yonic" are of Sanskrit derivation.
[6] rhododactylous: rosy-fingered. (Homer makes frequent reference to
_rhododaktulos eos_ -- "rosy-fingered dawn".)
[7] _sensus tactilis_: Latin for "the sense of touch".
[8] "Alalaes" are war-cries (the Greeks spelled a Xena-like war cry as
_alala_ or _alale_) and "ululient" is a coined term, apparently
meaning "characterized by ululation".
[9] sagittarian: archer-like.
[10] omphalos: belly-button.
[11] Omphale: Legendary queen of Lydia. From context, we must assume
that she had a cute belly-button; however, no known classical source
seems to address this vital issue.
[12] versicon: a coined term, apparently meaning "collection of verse".
[13] _Lycopersicon_: the biological genus to which tomatoes are assigned.
(The tomato is a New World plant, and was entirely unknown in the
Old World in pre-Columbian times. Thus, having tomatoes in a _Xena_ish
context is an even greater anachronism than having Homer tell the tale
of Spartacus.)
=========================================================================
Kevin Wald | ". . . What daunger, lust, and pour! / The world will chaunged
wald(at)math.uchicago.edu | been by hir valour!" -- Chaucer, _Troilus & Xena_
------------ End Forwarded Message -------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Champ wrote:
>
> To get a get look at the spectacular "Purple Emperor" butterfly (Apatura
> iris), go to this URL:
>
> http://monolith.yawc.net/~johan/butterfl/gallery/maier/iris1.jpg
I'm sure it's spectacular, Bob, but -- the picture is "not available". I
checked the index, and there is no apatura iris. If you can figure out where
it's moved to from the main page, good going, but I didn't spot it.
Mario
markin(at)patriot.net
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:09:12 -0500
From: "S.T. Karnick"
Subject: Re: Xenia Warrior Princess Meets Gilbert & Sullivan [11240] [11242]
Many thanks to Dr. Champ for the previously undiscovered W.S. Gilbert aria.
I heartily agree that we should discuss this great master of satirical
verse soonest. It appears that Mr. Gilbert is such a ubiquitous part of
our culture that it's easy to forget that he is one of the great satirists
and a fine thinker, not just a clown. (Not that being a great clown is
nothing!) Not only are his operettas and other plays excellent, but his
Bab Ballads are models of satirical verse. And he was right about the rug,
too!
Best w's,
S.T. Karnick
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:47:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Champ
Subject: re: Apatura iris [11239] [11241] [11243]
Mario sayeth:
>Robert Champ wrote:
>
>> To get a get look at the spectacular "Purple Emperor" butterfly (Apatura
>> iris), go to this URL:
>>
>> http://monolith.yawc.net/~johan/butterfl/gallery/maier/iris1.jpg
>I'm sure it's spectacular, Bob, but -- the picture is "not available". I
>checked the index, and there is no apatura iris. If you can figure out
>where it's moved to from the main page, good going, but I didn't spot it.
You might try the page of the photographer himself. The URL is:
http://mgfx/butterfly/gallery/maier03.htm
Here you will find a smaller version of the photo than at the monolith.
yawc.net site. I think it is the second photo, but can't be sure.
I found both sites by doing a www.excite.com search on "apatura iris" and
found the photo on the site you couldn't access, Mario, on the first
page, along with a number of other butterfly photos.
Often, when I have difficulty accessing a very specific URL, like the
one I sent, I start knocking off the finer steps. Thus, on the
monolith site you might start with the "/~johan" expression and don't
use what comes after it. Otherwise, I'm afraid I'm no help, being all
but computer illiterate, I fear.
Hope this is of some help to everyone who has had trouble with this
site.
Bob Champ
rchamp(at)europa.umuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:14:20 -0500
From: "Marsha J. Valance"
Subject: Re: Apatura Iris [11239] [11241] [11244]
You can get the picture by going to , then click on
dutch butterflies, then click on gallery, then click on Maier, and then
click on purple emperor.
It is a very nice photo, as is the variant beside it.
Marsha (who still does some reference work) in Milwaukee
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:51:11 -0700
From: Jeff Sargent
Subject: Re: Apatura iris [11243] [infinity] [11245]
Here is the page referenced from the monolith site, and if you scroll down
towards the bottom, there's a list of photos (the one at the top of the page is
just a scan from a field guide)
http://cal022011.student.utwente.nl/~johan/butterfl/species/airis.html
Cheers!
Sarge
--
Comper Sarge Jeffery L. N. Sargent
Tippett Studios 2741 Tenth Street
Berkeley, CA 94710 (510) 649-9711
sarge(at)tippett.com jefs(at)dnai.com
-----------------------------------------
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at least half of the sins of mankind are caused by
the fear of it. - Bertrand Russell
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:40:47 -0700
From: Sherlene
Subject: Re: Apatura Iris [11239] [11241] [11246]
markin(at)patriot.net wrote:
>
> Robert Champ wrote:
> >
> > To get a get look at the spectacular "Purple Emperor" butterfly (Apatura
> > iris), go to this URL:
> >
> > http://monolith.yawc.net/~johan/butterfl/gallery/maier/iris1.jpg
>
> I'm sure it's spectacular, Bob, but -- the picture is "not available". I
> checked the index, and there is no apatura iris. If you can figure out where
> it's moved to from the main page, good going, but I didn't spot it.
>
> Mario
> markin(at)patriot.net
All too true, dear Bob! Something is amiss. Perhaps we have a mystery
unfolding!?!
Sherlene
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:58:29 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: graverobber story [11234] [11236] [11247]
Thanks again, and further, Linda. This is surely the story. Strangely, I
have a copy of Cuddon's collection, and Stevenson's story ain't among 'em.
Maybe differences in the American and British printings (the ISBN number is
slightly different). Cheers, Jack (kolb(at)ulca.edu).
>On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Jack Kolb wrote:
>
>> > Was the story Stevenson's "The Body Snatchers," by any chance??
>> >linda
>>
>> That sounds right, Linda. Alas, I don't have a copy handy. Additional info
>> would be most helpful. Cheers, Jack.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jack Kolb
>> Dept. of English, UCLA
>> kolb(at)ucla.edu
>>
>
>Dear Jack-
> Well, the ending to this story does not have the doctor confronted
>with his dead wife, but the two body snatchers, who have supposedly
>snagged a farmer's wife confronted with a previous snatching -
> i have it in the Penguin Book of Hooror Stories - the one with J.>
>Cuddon's excellent introduction (ISBN 0-14-006799-x) Penguin, 1984."The
>Body Snatcher"
>Fettes - old drunk called "The Doctor"
>Wolfe Macfarlane - the actual doctor
>the undertaker
>the narrator
>
>Basically, the plot is that Fettes, now an old drunk, was a rising
>medical student; McFarlane an unscrupulous dr., Mr. K, an unscrupulous
>professor of anatomy -
>Fettes discovers that the bodies come from murder; macfarlane murders
>someone who knows too much about him and implicates Fettes; when they go
>to get a farmer's wife, it turns out to be meFarlane's murder victim
>. stevenson leaves open how the transformation was effected....
>hope this helps - linda
>
>
===0===
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:00:16 -0700
From: Jack Kolb
Subject: Re: What's the story across the pond? [11211] [11219] [11222] [11229]
[11235] [11248]
Thanks, Moudry. I think there have been a number of versions, including
(maybe?) one on either The Twilight Zone or Night Gallery. Cheers, Jack
(kolb(at)ulca.edu).
>R.L. Stevenson wrote the short story, and Boris Karloff played in the
>classic film version (not totally faithful to the story, but worth a watch
>ne'ertheless).
>
>Moudry
>
>
>At 19:27 14/4/97 -0700, Jack Kolb wrote:
>>'Twas I, Stephen. But everyone here has commented on everything about the
>>post except my question: who wrote the story (about the doctor who employed
>>unscrupulous grave robbers for his dissection specimens and ended up--since
>>these robbers decided to harvest their victims before death--faced with his
>>own wife)? I know there's a story; it's been dramatized several times.
>>
>>Thanks again, in advance. Jack (kolb(at)ucla.edu).
>>
>>
>>> I've lost track of who sent this originally. Was it Jack?
>>>
>>>> Do any of you have the
>>>> >> facts on this news item?
>>>> >
>>>> >Michelangelo and Da Vinci used to purchase corpses to study
>>>> >musculature for their sculptures. The practice was
>>>> >completely illegal at the time, but produced some of the
>>>> >world's most historic works. They employed graverobbers.
>>>
>>> But it wasn't illegal for da Vinci and Michelangelo because
>>> the church gave dispensation to artists and medical
>>> practitioners to dissect, so long as the seperated body
>>> parts were collected together in time for burial.
>>>
>>> There was a report on this on CBC radio because of the
>>> national museums restropective of dissection pieces by
>>> great artists (mostly housed in medical universities,
>>> not art museums).
>>> Stephen D
>>> SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Joe Moudry voice: (205) 934-3945
>Development & Training fax: (205) 934-6530
>The Univ. of Alabama (at) Birmingham
>Moudry(at)uab.edu
>
>UAB's HRM Webmaster: www-hrm1.vpad/uab.edu
>Saturn Web: www-hrm1.vpad.uab.edu/saturn
>
>Producer/host: Classic Jazz, Big Band Jazz, & New Jazz
>on WUAL (91.5 FM, Tuscaloosa/Birmingham),
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>/|/
>
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:05:22 -0700 (MST)
From: "STEPHEN DAVIES, MT. ROYAL COLLEGE"
Subject: Re: graverobber story [11234] [11236] [11247] [11249]
Jack K.,
Stevenson's "The body-snatcher" is part of the
Gaslight fiction webpage, it having been HTMLized for
us by Richard King.
I think the scenario you first proposed is a
mix of graverobbing stories, unless you are thinking
of the scene where Fettes, as the doctor's asst.,
receives the body of a woman he had just seen the
previous night, alive and healthy. I do not remember
if we are meaned to infer that she was a girlfriend.
Stephen D
SDavies(at)mtroyal.ab.ca
www.mtroyal.ab.ca/programs/arts/english/gaslight
End of Gaslight digest.